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Dr. William H. Sheldon, Ted Naftzger And The Large Cent Thefts

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John Kleeberg gives his presentation titled;

"Dr. William H. Sheldon, Ted Naftzger and the Large Cent Thefts"

I found it a quite interesting, and fascinating story of Dr. Sheldon and the ANS large cent collection (among other collections) that had coins switched out. Also how Sheldon pulled it off and attempts to answer why he did it. The talk has lots of back story that includes the Sheldon Grading Scale and how it almost brings him down. If you like U.S. Large cents, history of numismatics, crime dramas, lots of sleuth work then this is right up your alley give it a watch, but be aware it runs about 70 minutes long.

After this my opinion on Dr. Sheldon changed drastically!

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Thanks, I will check it out.
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There have been many scoundrels in numismatics through the years, but this one (to me) was the most disappointing of all.
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Thanks for the link. It was worth the time spent. A fascinating but sad story.
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with that, very disheartening to all of the Numismatic community. I always held Dr. Sheldon in a pretty esteemed spot in my minds, until I got involved in EAS coinage and began to unravel the complete story. Very sad indeed.
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Remarkable link, thanks!
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This entire story was laid out in great detail by in Truth Seeker: The Life of Eric Newman. Its a book well worth reading. Newman was a key figure in uncovering the theft and getting most of the Clapp coins back in the ANS collection. There has been talk of redoing the Sheldon scale to remove that honor from a thief, but its too intertwined with numismatics to make that possible now.
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Andrew99 - Yes a great book, I just wish I had jumped on the order sooner for a hardcover. Mark (friend at Heritage) told me there was a problem at the publisher and not as many hardcover books ended up getting printed, so it will be a classic book rarity in the future.
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There have been many scoundrels in numismatics through the years, but this one (to me) was the most disappointing of all.


Breen was much much worse
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There have been many scoundrels in numismatics through the years, but this one (to me) was the most disappointing of all.



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Breen was much much worse


You are correct in that Breen was a much worse human being.
On a purely numismatic level, Sheldon disappointed me more.
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Well, I watched that whole video and never knew about Sheldon being a thief but I had known about Breen.

Oh what a tangled web we weave!
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On a purely numismatic level, Sheldon disappointed me more.


Personal issues aside, Breen still disappoints me more. So much effort has had to be spent disproving his made up "facts" that you really are kind of better off just ignoring anything by him because you have to double check everything. Generally this wouldn't be a big issue, but he was on a pedestal for so long people just ran with what he said and to this day some of his stories are still believed by many.

I certainly understand future research can disprove past research, but in his case it was more than good faith mistakes and making up things for money is the biggest sin a researcher/author can do in terms of work product
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Wow, I never new. I'll need to check it out. Thanks for posting.
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...making up things for money is the biggest sin a researcher/author can do in terms of work product.


Worse than stealing the items you are researching and replacing them with lesser items?
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^ No, but the worst of Breen's crimes had nothing to do with numismatics. Take away the pedophilia, and Sheldon was much worse.
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