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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Maybe some mint employee got bored and said "screw" it! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7063 Posts |
Some mint employee bolted out of work with it.. 
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Valued Member
United States
202 Posts |
  well said
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1667 Posts |
Wow. A bolt get MS 64 and the W quarters struggle to get above a MS65.....
They just lose a but more credibility in my eyes by grading something like this. Just a cash grab for media buzz.
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Pillar of the Community
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Very interesting. And notice how the obverse is a better strike. I'm guessing the collar die interfered with the reverse strike.
I would love to come across the next coin to be struck by that pair of dies. It would have some really great die damage to it.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The dies do get a light copper coating of copper dust from the cents that they strike so a transfer of copper from the dies to the bolt is possible. Unplated planchets that get struck will also often have traces of copper on them from this dust on the dies.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: And notice how the obverse is a better strike. I'm guessing the collar die interfered with the reverse strike.
Notice the bolt head is not damaged and that the other end of the bolt is intact as well. Also that the bolt is bent upward toward the obv side. The bolt was not IN the coining chamber it was laying on top of the collar and spanning the chamber. The obv was the hammer die and hit the bolt bending it down into the collar. So the obv side took the full impact but most of the force was dissipated in bending the bolt and it didn't make strong contact with the rev die. So on the rev the threads were flattened but only part of the design was transferred to the bolt.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
751 Posts |
I thought the coins were plated after they were struck ? Dan
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Pillar of the Community
United States
751 Posts |
Coop, just a slight addition to the screw bolt issue. Typically a Bolt needs a nut, where a screw does not. The exception to that rule are Machine screws, they have flat bottom like bolts but do not need a nut. Yet they are called machine Screws.
Dan
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Valued Member
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10038 Posts |
A plus grade no less! Uh huh.    Makes a good deal of free advertising for PCGS. As the grader mentioned, comparison with others is what they depend on to base their grade opinions. Hence a reality check would have been better on the label such as "Appears like an MS64+ Lincoln." Still cannot get over the plus
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It could have been a circulated bold before it was struck. Grades don't make sense sometimes.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hey...great idea coop! You could make millions opening up a PBGS company! I think though I would included metal hardness into the grading standards as it might make it a bit more marketable and comprehensive. "First threaded" labels...Gear picture labels...man the potential is almost limitless.  Actually there is a date nail hobby (RR related) where no professional grading system exists...unfortunately the hobby is almost dead..rats...missed my chance!
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Forum Dad
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Quote: Well they called that wrong already. It is not a screw, it is a bolt. A screw has a sharp tip. This is a blunt end bolt with a screw driver head on it. It's a machine screw.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wonder, if the treads were stripped would it have received a "details" grade?
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