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 Posted 03/12/2019  06:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JimComic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
found 2 coins this morn at home where the sides are upside down, is this usual?

one is a 1964 Kennedy half dollar

the other is a 1944 quarter


also found what seems to be a french 1f 1970 coin, again, the sides are upside down
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 Posted 03/12/2019  06:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@JC, first welcome to CCF. Second, for a discussion of medal alignment vs. coin alignment, this prior CCF thread should be of interest, especially with regard to your US coins:

http://goccf.com/t/159456
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On US coins when you turn them over top to bottom, they stay OK. If you turn them over side to side, they are upside down. Some countries coins are just the opposite. Best thing to do so as to not get confused is to not turn the coins over.
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cool, ta
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 Posted 03/12/2019  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Upside down printed coins are common. We see them all the time in photos posted here. ;-)
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U.S. coins aren't upside down.
It depends on which way the person flips the coin over that might produce that illusion. If you flip it top to bottom the reverse will be oriented properly for viewing.
If you flip it side to side, not so much!
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Back in the 1700s, it was normal worldwide for coins to be struck "upside-down"; that is why what you (and I) call "upside down" is technically known as "coin alignment". When the two sides of a coin are both "right-way-up" is called "medal alignment".

Coins were originally made this way because of the way early screw-type, rocker and roller coin presses were assembled. The lower die was inserted into the press facing "right way around" from the point of view of the person inserting the die. The upper die was also inserted into the press "right way around" from the same point of view, but because the upper die is inserted into the press upside-down, the resultant coin becomes "coin-aligned". Thusly:

Upside-Down-US-Coins

For coins, it doesn't really matter, since nobody (except coin collectors) really has to flip a coin back and forth between the two sides. But medals, designed to be hung on a ribbon or mount, need to be "right way up" both sides when flipped on that mount.

The rest of the world gradually changed their coins from coin alignment to medal alignment during the 1800s. America and France were two notable holdouts. Now that France uses the euro (which is universally medal-aligned), America is just about the only country to still make coins using the old coin alignment.
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And here I used to stand on my head to see which way a coin was up or down.
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America is just about the only country to still make coins using the old coin alignment.
We will probably go metric before giving up coin alignment.
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Thailand still does coin alignment.
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thanks y'all


very informative, never noticed u.s. coins being that way before, learn something every day :)
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Coin Orientation: US
Upside-Down-US-Coins

Medal Orientation: UK
Upside-Down-US-Coins
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