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I'm new here trying to get some information on the subject coin I found in my late father's collection. As stated in the subject line, both sides of the coin have mirror images. See attached images. The colors are because I used different filters trying for maximum legibility. Any thought will be appreciated.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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 Could you please post a clearer picture of the obverse? If one side was mirrored (normal image on one side and the same image in reverse on the other) I'd say brockage. I'm not really sure about this though. It's an interesting piece. Edited by Numisma
03/28/2019 7:36 pm
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@ODR, first welcome to CCF. Second, I agree that better pics would help--especially useful would be removing the coin from the 2x2 for them. Of course, you will want to return it to this protective cover after photographing. Also, just handle the coin by the edge.
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Better Images of 1865 2 cent mirror Obverse and Reverse. I took the coin out of the flip and got better photos. The color is also very close to true. Please see attached if I can get the Image Optimizer to work again. Also thanks Spence and Nomisma for your responses.   |
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Valued Member
United States
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Neat. Could someone explain how this happens?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Probably a crude contemporary counterfeit simply created by squeezing or hammering a metal blank between two coins. I used to have a Shield nickel created the same way in a lead alloy blank. |
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I have to agree with Condor101.
Probably man made. I can't see how you can have a brokage on both sides.
(Unless it had the help of the operator)
There was a Canadian coin with a similar situation in the Canadian Forum
that was for sale at an auction but was withdrawn for being a counterfeit.
Edited by JimmyD
03/29/2019 08:23 am
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United States
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I think Conder 101 nailed it. In my limited knowledge I can't imagine how a normal minting action could produce a "mirror" coin. I am surprised that using normal 1865 Two Cent coins as "dies" would result in a fairly sharp image in the copper blank. It has taken me almost 40 years to deal with my late father's coins, but at 78 years old it is time. Thanks to all that responded. I have a few more oddities I will post later . |
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Sorry for not having much to contribute, just wanted to say this is really cool however it happened!
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I'll have to agree that it's some sort of fake. That said, I'm still not sure why a counterfeiter would go to the trouble of making what appears to be a reasonably high quality fake (Right size and metal, sharp design) while leaving the design backwards.  |
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I'm still not sure why a counterfeiter would go to the trouble Before electricity people had a lot of time on their hands. |
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That said, I'm still not sure why a counterfeiter would go to the trouble of making what appears to be a reasonably high quality fake (Right size and metal, sharp design) while leaving the design backwards. Very simple, he had some coins and access to so metal blanks but no capability to make dies or access to a press. But he DID have a sledge hammer (or the ability to make a drop press). Stack a blank between to Two Cent Pieces and WHAM! The Two Cent Pieces will still spend and you have a counterfeit 2 cent piece that you can pass if you are lucky and the light isn't good. We aren't talking about a professional counterfeiter, we are talking about an opportunist who is maybe just trying to get his next meal. |
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Doesn't not look real, most likely made as Gary (Conder101) says. A full brockerage struck coin is only one sided. Cool and interesting counterfeit/fantasy coin though.
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