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1840 Large Cent With Raised Bits On Obverse - Looks PSD But...

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Can't figure out how this came to be. The somewhat "HI" shaped things are raised and by the throat even extend into the field. No obvious damage pushing up metal around them.

Anyway, if someone has an idea about what this is I would love to hear it. Thanks!

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It could have been an attempt to deface a retired die. That would mean it was set to be disposed of, deliberitly defaced and damaged and then retired. Then, for whatever reason re-instated for usage with the damage.
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This is a weird one. If @coop doesn't know, consider pinging Mike Diamond.
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Very strange. I'm interested to hear more about it.
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PSD from cuts made into the coin.
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It "looks" on top of the coin,not into the coin to me.
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The marks do look raised. Other than a defaced die, I can't think of another explanation.
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Me neither. Mr. coop, what say you?
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Looks like graffiti, cut with a razor
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Maybe the metal was just "pushed" (repousse) to create any raised letters.

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At least I am not alone in wondering about this one. Still just keeping it as a whatzit unless someone homes in on something better.

Thanks everyone for your comments! It's very helpful with a coin like this.
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There are cuts into the coin that pushed the metal upwards. You can see the cuts right next to the raised ridges.
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Its hard to tell if its raised or inset into the coin. I'd "feel" it with the tip of a toothpick to see if the tip drops into a valley, or gets stopped by a ridge. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out if you have the coin in hand.
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I'd say Post Strike Damage ( PSD), but that's just my opinion.
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I don't have a problem with the idea that this is related to cuts in the coin, other than the amount of metal involved. How does a little cut put all that metal out in the field in front of the neck?

And as noted in my original post, they are raised. Photos can be deceiving about such things so I said that right up front.

Pretty sure this will remain a whatzit at this point favoring PMD of some kind as no viable mint option has come out other than die defacement and I would think if that occurred then these would be a known thing by now.
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If you have a laser pointer, you could run it across the raised areas and look for shadows where the metal may gave been chased upwards.

(Do I have to tell you not to allow the laser to reflect into your eyes?)
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