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 Posted 06/11/2019  7:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CityofKooks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

Bought this beautiful Newfoundland half...I know its obviously cleaned, but other than the scratch on the top left of the reverse, the detail is amazing.

What grade would you give it? Appreciate the input
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 Posted 06/11/2019  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hard to tell au58/ms-62 Details , harshly cleaned, polished.
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 Posted 06/11/2019  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details, harshly cleaned/polished.
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 Posted 06/11/2019  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ef/au harsh cleaning
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 Posted 06/11/2019  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details (harshly cleaned). Nasty customer.
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 Posted 06/11/2019  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Low AU details, heavy cleaned. No TPG would certify it ... it would be bodybagged. It's not worth grading.
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 Posted 06/11/2019  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let it sit on a window ledge for a lot of years and it may retone?:) au53 details
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 Posted 06/11/2019  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU50 Details
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 Posted 06/12/2019  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's a shame that it has been cleaned, would have been a nice one if not for that.
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 Posted 06/12/2019  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU with a cleaned designation

I am now of the opinion that it is almost worthless to have anything graded at all. Let the owner/ buyer be their own judge. ICCS is too inconsistent in their grading. PCGS is way inconsistent with NL coins unless they are mint state.

Def not worth grading with the obvious cleaning anyway.
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 Posted 06/12/2019  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I couldn't disagree, any AU58 and under are not worth grading. Unless they are some type of a rarity.
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Ouch! I fear the reverse gouges happened during the cleaning. I agree, AU details both because of the cleaning and the gouges. Definitely not worth grading. That would have been a beauty, if original.
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 Posted 06/13/2019  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...That would have been a beauty, if original.


Probably, but maybe it was really ugly and the uniformed person who perpetrated this tragedy could have been well intentioned. Or more likely, they were looking to make a fast buck.

Looks like it was whizzed. Would we classify whizzing as a form of cleaning?
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 Posted 06/13/2019  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
-whizzing is a form of cleaning- hard to detect when done right I think
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 Posted 06/13/2019  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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-whizzing is a form of cleaning- hard to detect when done right I think


Agreed, I'm sure I've seen whizzed coins that I did not know were whizzed.

I believe whizzing entails the use of a rotary power tool?

Perhaps this coin was cleaned with a non-powered wire brush of some sort. All that acne on it, especially on the obverse. Really looks like abrasive friction.

Or are there chemicals that would do that to the surface?
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