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New Member
Australia
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I've found multiple errors in a pre decimal sixpence that are not listed in Renniks. The closest variety is listed as RARE that has quite a few errors. Can I call my coin RARE if it lists only a few of these errors but extra ones as well?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Do you have a pic ?
Watch your top knot
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New Member
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Nice pics.
Die cracks are common on Aussie pre-decimal coins.
A specific die crack could be described as rare technically.
But value wise worth maybe a couple of dollars extra.
Watch your top knot
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Appears to be a later die state with lots of cracks.
The term rarity or rare is often misused. Most coin variety collectors use a set number that are known or extrapolated. R10 is Unique, R9 is very rare, and R8 is rare. At that level there are probably no more than 10 known.
But rare does not equal valuable. Not to be absurd, but to illustrate the point, if you look at 1000 of the same type, date, and variety some of them will have marks that distinguishes them from all others. One may even have a tiny die chip and of the 100,000 reviewed it is the only one displaying that chip. While it may be "rare", it is unlikely that such a small problem would translate to any additional numismatic value increase.
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New Member
Australia
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Thanks moxking and echidna. You answered my questions perfectly. But I really do love that die crack right across the date.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It's a great looking coin. Did the mints use their dies longer during WWII?
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Did the mints use their dies longer during WWII? We'd probably have been the last to know that fact as many of the Aussie coins were minted in the US during WWII. This particular one was minted in Denver, hence the D Mint Mark above the date. life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Did the mints use their dies longer during WWII? Short answer is yes,in Aust. at least,as Nancy says that's a Denver minted Coin,they produced their own Dies for Oz. Coins during the war. In Aust. there was a severe Coin Shortage during the war,the full extent of which wasn't revealed until the 1970's when WW11 researchers/Historians were able to able to study declassified & uncensored Documents. The Melbourne. Mint had great difficulties in supplying Coins to the Banking system from 1939/40 onwards,only getting back on track towards the end of the war so desperate measures were required whilst waiting for the Indian minted copper Coins to arrive. Edited by Basil
10/25/2019 07:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I think the best definition is this. All errors are technically unique, but how often, and to what degree defines rarity.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Not to go too far off topic but if R10 stands for unique then what do we go to (Spinal Tap level R11?) for coins that theoretically might exist but have never been sighted or coins for which a unique specimen was known but then destroyed (or the entire minting run was destroyed). I can think of many examples of coins that have been reported but not verified, of dated dies prepared but reportedly not used or of coins where the entire mintage was destroyed. I have several R10 coins but am ever optimistic of finding the possible R11s (and if someone ever found a theoretical R11 that coin would become a real R10).
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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A one off error would obviously considered rare, but even then, it may not necessarily be valuable. What makes an error valuable is the type of error, (some types of errors are much rarer than other types of errors), and it's severity. An accidently struck off metal strike in silver when it should have been struck in bronze. How about a Flying Eagle cent struck in gold?  or a Wartime nickel struck in standard copper nickel? or a 1943 Lincoln Cent struck in bronze? or an Australian Florin struck on a U.S. Wartime Nickel blank? ................................................................................................................................................. Sometimes an error may even be less valuable than a standard strike, especially if it is of a rare coin, that is otherwise perfectly struck. What would you prefer? a): a Flowing Hair Dollar in MS60, that is very weakly struck, with large parts of the design missing, or b) same, but perfectly and sharply struck up in AU55? |
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