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That ragged edge does not appear to have been caused at the mint.
Reverse look more like a strike through.
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First, that is not a clip, but damage. The extra indentations creeping into the coin's field give it away. Also, there is no evidence of any Blakesley Effect. However, that is a very nice peeled lamination on the reverse.  You can see a line extending northeast from it that continues the "peel." It's not a struck-through error. I feel like the entire community needs some sort of class in identifying lams. It seems so simple, yet they are misidentified here often.
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Edited by spru 09/16/2019 02:36 am
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I am on the fence,leaning towards struck through.It would be nice if the photos were more in focus though. John1 
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Seems like we may not get consensus on this one. I am firmly on team lam for this one. The continuation of the lam edge up through the N in ONE is what does it for me.
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So would it be a de-lam or a lam? John1 
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What do you guys make of the rim on the obverse at the K9 position, lettering or memorial?
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Nice Delamination!
Errers and Varietys.
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Quote: What do you guys make of the rim on the obverse at the K9 position, lettering or memorial? Just PMD. John1 
Edited by John1 09/15/2019 09:08 am
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Rim damage and a strike through for me
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 with John1 ....see rim damage also on obverse @ 10k, making reverse damage PMD + lam/delam
Edited by Greasy Fingers 09/15/2019 10:55 am
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I'm in the strike-through camp, with PMD to the rim.
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Delamination- Cool, another new term! I'm researching what that is as well as searching ragged clip pictures to see what to look for, thanks guys!
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The anomaly on the reverse is a lam , or more accurately said , the coin metal has delaminated. The cross striations in that area are the key to the ID. You can also see where it continues as a retained lam to the north. TB found a coin here http://goccf.com/t/353442&SearchTerms=Lamination , that sparked a similar debate. His coin also had a retained area to the north. The telltale to ID the error on his coin was also in the anomaly but on his coin they indicated a struck through. The lines in the anomaly on TB's coin are not the striations of the internal structure of a planchet that has come apart as we see on Sarge's coin but roller lines from a part of the planchet that was protected by a strip of coin metal that was struck through.
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Quote: So would it be a de-lam or a lam? That's partly why this is tricky. The coin in question is "supposed" to be a solid alloy. That means no natural lines of separation. However, when metals are not combined properly, something akin to woodgrain can develop. The metal may separate along these lines and they are usually straight and directional just like wood grain. So, the coins are not intended to have any laminate properties at all, but they happen (especially in the '40s!). Delam or lam, flaw, peel, error, etc...it all points to the same thing. Although LWCs are not laminated, I suppose "delamination" would be the most appropriate word to describe the way in which the metal separated.
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