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Edited by Dredge
11/12/2019 8:57 pm
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Possibly a specimen coin that got out in the wild. Looks like a flaw on DA and waterlines on one.
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Nope. Both are uncirculated coins. One is from a roll the other from an unc set. Just look how much further the body of the Beaver goes down the tail and how little log is left.
It is truly Re-Engraved.
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that is a pretty significant difference between the two. there is a lot of Die Deterioration around the beaver on the "small log" coin. is this a result of over polishing of the dies maybe? |
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That is a very interesting difference in the two. Originally I also thought maybe a proof die had been used. But the following two images are from ebay auctions of a proof and an Unc. Both appear to be the same design with the same log and same length of hair onto the beaver's tail, yet neither have the hair of the beaver extending onto the "top" of the log like yours. So maybe you have discovered a new variety?  How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
11/13/2019 11:53 am
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Dredge hope you dont mind. here is and overlay of your images. you be the judge. from what I am seeing you have a new variety. here is your image  |
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Earle42 sorry earle. thought my well do your photo as well the c+e in cent dont match. the top beaver tail is bigger. the top beaver is slightly bigger. the 2 number 5s are different here is the image  |
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There were like 50 million nickels produced in 92, so lots of pair of dies created, take an example of regular grade 3 bolt, worth around 50 cents to a buck or so depending on size. Now the same size bolt made to aircraft standards in batches of 52 where 2 are sent for testing standards, these bolts cost 10 to 100 bucks each because they can not fail. The coins the RCM produced are to a low standard, just enough to do it's job, so naturally you get slight variations in the coin, to most collectors it's only a curiosity, just my 5 cents worth only. |
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Comparing this with the relatively hard to see 1926 far 6, 1922 and 1932 far varieties, which many people struggle to identify, it seems Dredge's find is very easy to determine. I think it warrants looking into a new variety attribution. one beaver has long hair and the other short. The coverage of the hair onto other details is plain to see. The log on the one also has smaller height than the other. Once a collector would see these points, they are pretty obvious. And, IMO, much more obvious than the aforementioned varieties. Great find!   |
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Edited by numidan
11/14/2019 3:38 pm
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Being in the recessed portion of the die, I highly doubt this is tool damage to a given die. I suspect a 2nd production punch to make a master die was made. You'd have to search a bunch of mint-issued 1992 rolls to draw any conclusion about scarcity.
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The intersection of fur and log is in fact in the recessed portion of the coin, thus, one of the highest point on the die! 1990s nickels have many example of dies will tool damage, remember "bare belly" on 1990 or this one on 1993 nickel  Edited by numidan
11/14/2019 3:56 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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After studying the pictures at the link Numidan posted, I noted the extra hair extending onto the tail and over the log is made of parallel lines. It does look as if something scraped the die deeply in that area to make the different look. I think the difference in height of the logs in the pic I posted before is due to one coin being rotated further in one direction than the other.
Even if this was just a damaged die, I would think it could still be a collectible variety since it came from the mint looking that way. I'd like to find one!
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Earle42 go check my overlay this is a new variety.
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Both the OP's "re-engraved" coins and the two linked to have a die gouge line near the D and last A of CANADA.
It is clear that all of these coins are products of the same die.
The odds that they are from a new master die are slim to none.
It's more likely(though still highly improbable) that a single die was re-engraved.
But most likely IMO, what we see is damage to the die.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
Edited by DBM
11/15/2019 09:41 am
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