Questions For The Experts,87p Nickel Struck On Clad Stock

That seems like a hard thing to look up to me. What company graded your coin?

yes it shows the exact edges of the clad quarters.It is bright copper.It is a Business Strike.I am currently at work,working on split screen to talk.lol

NDCENT said...



TOO COOL!! THANKS!

I've seen this error in a slab, but they didn't show the edge. I'm excited to see it!

I think you got scammed. No 1987P was graded above MS67 by NGC or PCGS that I am aware of. MS68 would be extremely rare, MS69 would be impossibly rare and MS70s just don't happen, it a 1 in a trillion coin except in the silver eagle line of coins.
MS70 graded coins just don't happen from the 3rd party graders except for silver eagles.

I think the slab has to be a basement grader slab with a false grade on it and at that point I'd question the authenticity of the coin also.

Sorry if it comes across as harsh. I'd need to see a whole lot more than 3 close up pictures... and some history story of how you acquired it, who graded it ect., to know if this is real or a scam.
For now I'm really skeptical just from you saying it's a MS70 and those pictures are just making it more sketchy.
Value $0.05 until a whole lot more is known. Sorry.

If its real, You'd need to get it graded by PCGS or NGC to get the really high prices. Nobody is going anywhere near it in other slabs that would be less trustworthy.

From Heritage Auctions
"1987-P 5C Jefferson Nickel--Struck on Clad Stock--AU58 NGC. Ex: New England Collection. 4.22 gm. The newfangled NGC holder clearly shows the edge of this coin, which is divided into the dark brown and gray bands typical of clad dimes through halves. Apparently, clad strip intended for quarters was rolled to the thickness for Jefferson nickels and sent through a nickel planchet cutter, resulting in the present untoned and satiny error coin. The left-side rims are softly struck, and the fields display an orange-peel texture due to long-in-use dies."

From a Coin World article: "There is only one secure case of a solid-alloy denomination being struck on clad stock; a 1987-P Jefferson 5-cent coin struck on copper-nickel clad quarter dollar stock. Only about five or six examples are known."

From my understanding, the 1987P was on quarter Clad stock that was rolled out to Nickel thickness and some punched out as nickel planchets, it's not struck on dime or quarter stock meant for quarters or dimes.

This is still screaming a slab grading scam to me, even more so now. for there to be only a handful known to exist some graded, and you having one graded MS70..... What are the chances?
your up close pictures, especially the rim areas, and surfaces just look wrong compared to examples on the internet of a genuine 1987-P struck on clad stock.

Should weigh 4.2 grams but you'd have to crack it out to weigh it at this point. worn looking rims from a soft strike and poor surfaces from worn dies is the diagnostic for this coin, and your pictures show something else entirely, something well struck and clean.

Yeah, I'm even more skeptical now that I've dug a bit further.