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The slab says nothing about clad stock it's a nicely toned jefferson unless a sigma or other XRF machine says differently. sms is not an accepted grading service by far read other reviews on the site of their services. Non blurry images of the coin will get you a way more accurate grade from the family here than from star grading services. I have a few non accepted slabs myself. Best advice I have heard on here...buy the coin not the slab. after a few I regret I stick with all NGC and always check certification numbers first.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the extras images. Here is a LINK to a topic on SGS grading service with some really pertinent information. (Not favorable by the way.) https://www.cointalk.com/threads/co...ervice.4033/Whether the nickel error is genuine remains to be seen since the images are hard to get through the plastic slab. If you send it off please post nice clear images as we would all like to see it be real. Thanks again for the follow up. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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Forum Dad
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SGS is crap. I've seen coins that weren't even AU labeled as MS70.
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Thanks all.I am confident it is real.I've researched SGS.That was the reason I bought the lot.I had a good feeling about the coins I purchased.Believe it or not some of the coins are great.I will try to get something to take better pictures.
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Pillar of the Community
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There is no indication of it being on clad stock except the copper color near the edge? First thing would be to get it out of the holder, check the edge for copper and weigh it.
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Pillar of the Community
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Good luck...lets crack it out
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with lcutler 100%.
Out of the slab to get an unobstructed view of the rim and also to weigh it.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
Edited by Petespockets55
12/03/2019 11:35 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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If he had it, he would have cracked it open by now.
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Pillar of the Community
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If you can have a Gold and Silver buyer use an XFR reader on the coin you can find out if it's a copper core coin by the percentage of nickel and copper. I think that they can read it in the slab, so you shouldn't have to break it. Once you have the exact numbers from an XFR scan we should be able to tell if it's a clad planchet nickel.
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Pillar of the Community
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If he had it, he would have cracked it open by now. Not necessarily. They seem convinced it is legit and the slab keeps it protected better than a 2x2. If they decide it is authentic and send it to an accepted grading company that company can crack it open easier. Plus, I'm not sure they have the right equipment to get good enough images for us to be able to tell. It would be great to see images of the edge showing the copper better but I'm guessing they want it to grade as high as possible even though they realize SGS isn't trustworthy (judging from their replies). Probably going to take a gamble based on what they can see in hand and send it in. At least it would be a better investment than a scratch-off lottery ticket. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Bottom line is if someone paid to have it slabbed regardless who, they wouldnt have sold it with other coins for $25. It.would be cool if its real but I'm gonna take a stab and say its a pretty nickel
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Bedrock of the Community
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If you can have a Gold and Silver buyer use an XFR reader on the coin you can find out if it's a copper core coin by the percentage of nickel and copper. Nope, the XRF gun only penetrates a few microns into the surface. If it was struck on clad stock the gun wouldn't be able to reach the copper core so it would just come back as 75% copper 25 % nickel. Exactly the same reading as it would get on a regular five cent piece. Quote:
Bottom line is if someone paid to have it slabbed regardless who, they wouldnt have sold it with other coins for $25 It was an SGS slab and they were a notorious self slabber (And rampant overgrader) so it probably cost them maybe 70 cents to produce it. It then sold at a ridiculous price (considering they called it a 70) Some dealer probaly eventually bought it for a dollar or two and then sold it for $25. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. |
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Conder101 said... Quote:
Nope, the XRF gun only penetrates a few microns into the surface. If it was struck on clad stock the gun wouldn't be able to reach the copper core so it would just come back as 75% copper 25 % nickel. Exactly the same reading as it would get on a regular five cent piece.
Thanks for the info! I thought it was MUCH more accurate than that. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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