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1938-D Buffalo - What Are The Chances It Can Make 66

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As you know,I'm not good at grading. My guess MS64.
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In these photos, at least, it doesn't seem to have the pizzazz of a 66.
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It has the typical strong strike for the date, and few marks. But I don't see enough luster (although that could easily be just the photos).
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Looks like it may be one of the OMM varieties .... closer examination of the mint mark might tell.

64/65 at best in my book.
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An MS-66 usually has a "tangier" look to it. So sharp it make me drool. I'm in at a 64/65, but it's just a guess.
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seeing some ticks in the fields and the rims. hits in front leg of buffalo and under the beard of the buffalo in the field. long mark under IBE in LIBERTY. agree it looks choice rather than gem.
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Looks like it may be one of the OMM varieties .... closer examination of the mint mark might tell.


This. It very well could be 1938-D OMM-001 (FS-511), the D/D/D/S, which certainly would explain why snagging a 66 matters. A non-variety 1938-D is common in MS-66, and isn't worth slabbing except as a bulk submission. Either the D/D or D/S is a different situation.

On the obverse, there appears to be a contact mark from the center of the hair to a point above the eyebrow. The mark near LIBERTY appears to be the residue of the ever-present clash, in this case the buffalo's right rear leg, which clashes next to LIBERTY. As @numismatic student noted, the contact marks and small gouge on the buffalo's shoulder and left front leg are more troubling.

I see this as a bubble coin, right on the edge of 65/66. On a bourse floor as a raw coin, I'm at 65. Slabbed as a 66, I would be looking to shave the price a bit for the contact marks, but I wouldn't have a terrible reaction to the 66. It has really nice golden toning, by the way.

I've found PCGS a bit picky lately on contact marks on the devices, but that may just be the run of coins I've sent in. I have doubts that you could snag a 66 from PCGS, and I'm fairly sure you couldn't from NGC. ANACS, however, may balance those marks with the generally clean fields on your coin, and might run it to 66. There's a legitimate reason to send it to ANACS for the variety attribution, and ANACS is less expensive, especially when they are running one of their "submit 10 coins for one price" specials.

JMHO.
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This. It very well could be 1938-D OMM-001 (FS-511), the D/D/D/S,


thanks for the detailed info fortcollins. here are the best shots I could get on the MM. I'm not seeing anything but then again I don't really know exactly what I'm looking for


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Can't make the call using these photos.
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I like it but nice 38-D's are a dime a dozen . MS-64/65 .
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64. May have a shot at 65
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Looking at the second photo of the mint mark, there is a possibility that it is 1938-D OMM 005 (FS-515). The photo is not clear enough to tell, but the mm appears to be in the right position and appears to have marks in the right places. OMM-005 isn't the most desired OMM, but it is listed in the CherryPickers Guide. It isn't the OMM-001, however.

You should compare the photos with your coin. If it is that variety, it is worth grading and having it attributed. If not, the coin is not worth grading. It would trade in the MS-63/64 range as a raw coin. There isn't much difference in value until a 1938-D hits MS-67.
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