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Are The Modern Commemorative Silver Dollars Commonly Counterfeited?

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Having jumped in with both feet adding to my set are counterfeits a concern I should have. Even with CoAs? (Which I'm sure would be counterfeit as well). Just curious. Thanks in advance for your time.
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Considering that most are selling a little over SPOT on the secondary market I doubt it, but if there is a buck to be made, nothing would surprise me.
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I would be surprised if they were commonly counterfeited as well. Easier/bigger fish to fry.
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I suspect that cheap Chinese counterfeits exist for everything - but even then I doubt that modern commemorative dollars would be a popular target. They just aren't particularly popular.

As long as it doesn't look obviously bad, I'd guess that it's far more likely to be real. If it has a CoA it's almost guaranteed to be real.
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If it has a CoA it's almost guaranteed to be real.

Maybe, but if the CoA isn't physically attached to the coin, there's no assurance that the CoA belongs to that particular coin. I'd also think that a CoA is easier to fake than a coin.

All that said, I agree that these are not a likely target for counterfeiting. It would have to be nearly perfect for someone to buy it in the first place (they don't circulate so there's no real opportunity for wear which might hide an imperfect reproduction) and they generally don't sell for enough to make counterfeiting worthwhile.
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Thank you everyone.
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I highly doubt it. Especially as the designs change every year. Far easier to counterfeit ASEs which haven't changed in 30+ years. Or much older, more valuable silver dollars.
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I've seen pics of fake 1986 Statue of Liberty Commem Dollars floating around, but they are REALLY bad and they're dated 1906!

You shouldn't have much to worry about with these.
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Those dirty somethin' somethin's will fake anything to turn a dollar.
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There are known Chinese counterfeits of:
American Silver Eagles
common date Buffalo nickels
common date average circulated Morgan dollars that would be found in pawn shops
1940s Newfoundland five cent pieces that would sell for under $20 if genuine
a common date business strike Canada Toonie

The answer is "yes," if it is minted, they could very well counterfeit it. The number of contemporary coins on the counterfeiters' favorite sites is staggering. That said, the defense is knowing the real deal. Familiarity with the genuine coins makes spotting the counterfeits easier.
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When I worked at stacks, I remember seeing over the counter fake 1979 Susan B Anthony dollars. I also saw over the counter the counterfeit Presidential dollars. It doesn't make much sense to me economically why they would fake such coins but they do, so certainly you should find modern counterfeit coins.
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Thanks for all the input. Since I started this thread I've completed the first Dansco book and am a little more than a page into the second.

I know the modern commemoratives aren't popular but for some reason I really enjoy them.
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I also saw over the counter the counterfeit Presidential dollars. It doesn't make much sense to me economically why they would fake such coins but they do, so certainly you should find modern counterfeit coins.


US Dollar coins circulate in South America, so maybe they were made to be passed off as real money down there?
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