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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As most collectors know, a coin can be pricey because of it's scarcity (key dates) or condition (common dates in very high grades). For example, would you choose a 1909-S VDB in F or a more common 1917-S but in MS64 ? They are both worth about the same.
I just looked at my classic coin collection and realized that I have very few coins in MS, so I must fall in the first categoty.
What type of collector are you ?
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Valued Member
United States
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In my type set I generally do not use key coins unless the coin in question is the first or last year of issue. My key coins are usually ones that fit my set or collection i.e., if I am building an XF/AU set my keys will be in those grades. My type coins (in my 7070) are the best grades I can afford, some are several grades higher that the same coins in my date/mint sets. I am not sure what kind of collector that makes me.....it is just what I do.
Regards, afernbaugh
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 United States
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I prefer circulated pieces because of the added character. I have no desire (nor means) to buy high graded MS coins that cost exponentially more than their circulated cousins. Give me that 1909-S VDB in F any day! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
790 Posts |
I also am in it for the history, an MS coin has pretty much no history. A F coin does. In fact, one of my favorite "classic" coins is a Seated dime that has a hole through the center that makes it look as though it has been shot. Now that coin has character. A wonderful side effect of coins with character is that they are considerably less expensive.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since I mostly cherry-pick my coins, they're far easier to find in circulated grades than MS. I also think MS coins are pushed up too high due to being an "investment grade".
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 United States
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Quote: A wonderful side effect of coins with character is that they are considerably less expensive. Well said!  Quote: I also think MS coins are pushed up too high due to being an "investment grade". I have to agree. Given what has happened to other investments lately, I wonder when that bubble will break? 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I prefer higher grade MS coins over circulated coins and to be honest the only coins that are circulated are in my 7070 album where I had to settle for some of the coins in AU because of price so I could fill the hole without taking a loan out on my house. But AU-50 is the lowest grade coin I believe I have in my collection so I guess I am in the second category
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Pillar of the Community
United States
812 Posts |
I'm a "type 1" collector. I much prefer circulated rare coins to common coins in rare condition.
However, if I were spending the money, I wouldn't pick the 09-S VDB. It's not all that rare, just incredibly popular.
My uncle was the main coin collector in the family when I was a kid. He had lots of coins, but he also collected silver medals from the Franklin Mint. They were very pretty and shiny and pristine. I was far more interested in the dirty old coins that had actually performed their intended purpose and served as money, being used by a person to buy something. There's a lot to be said for coins that played a role in history!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I prefer the highest grade that I can afford. For investment, I don't think it makes any difference ' a rising tide raises all boats'. I like the detail of the higher grades. The mint takes a lot of pride in designing and striking coins. I appreciate their work.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I'm more of a the first type. I'd rather save the hundreds (sometimes thousands) buying the VG-F key date and put it on another coin rather than buying one shiny, mint state (or better grade) key date. I've also picked up a couple of cleaned ones if it means saving several hundred from a problem-free coin of similar grade.
Edited by 1sikevo 10/13/2008 6:55 pm
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 United States
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Having several Large Cents that could have been held by George Washington or Ben Franklin, or a Colonial that could have been held by Ethan Allen or in the pocket of a soldier during the Revolutionary War, I think I will stick with the circulated coins. I'd say that 85% of my coin holdings are circulated. Like jbuck stated, they have special character about them not to mention the historical aspect.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I fall in between these two groups. I like to have nice details and some wear. For US coins I prefer alot of my coins to be XF. But there are just some examples that I want in MS and some I could care less if it was F. I guess it all depends on the coin type.
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Australia
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Quote: I wonder when that bubble will break? I am not sure it will. I think the market will die off generally, as people have less to spend. However, those with money will be looking for other places to put it now shares are worthless. At least if history is any indication. Usually this would have been real estate, but that is just as unattractive at the moment. So that leaves the so called specialist investment areas. And this includes high quality coins, notes, art work and the such. I think if anything, prices of the more sought after coins are only going to climb.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I collect what I can find and afford but for the most part all of my coins are well circulated. My 7070 Type set has some of my nicest coins in it. 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: I also think MS coins are pushed up too high due to being an "investment grade". There is no "think", it's "fact". The MS scale was created to price coins, not grade them. A 12 coin should sell for three times as much as a 4 coin, and 1/5 as much as a 60. A 66 should sell for 10% more than a 60. Anything other than that is people overpaying for higher grades. Anyone who thinks the TPGs can tell the difference between high grades is on drugs. Crack out ten MS70s and resubmit them and see what you get. So why pay big bucks for a difference that doesn't exist? IIRC, the Stickley 1804 dollar has been graded everywhere from nice circulated to Proof 62, and this by the biggest experts in the industry. They can't even agree whether it's a business strike or a proof!
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 Australia
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You can definitely label me a Type 1. If I had to choose between buying one spiffy, uncirculated coin from a country I didn't have, and buying ten scuffy, barely identifiable coins from countries I didn't have, and assuming they'd cost the same, I'd take the ten, any day.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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