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 Posted 10/26/2008  5:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well, I did it.
What do you think of my new acquisition?
Could this be a double date?



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10/26/2008 6:05 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2008  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bit hard to tell mate,can you post close ups photo's of the date regards Harry
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 Posted 10/26/2008  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The pic's a bit to small, but gah! are those brush cleaning scratches?
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 Posted 10/26/2008  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There on the reverse as well
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 Posted 10/26/2008  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are larger date.
Get kinda blurry at this resolution

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 Posted 10/27/2008  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without better pictures, I'm afraid there is not much that can be done to help you. Unless you bought this coin at very low price, I would consider sending it back. I know of no 1886 coins with heavy die polishing lines on it. Are those heavy cleaning lines or just the photo ?
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 Posted 10/27/2008  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WWhitman, I can neither confirm nor deny based on the photos. Here's the diagnostic photo from VAMWorld to compare ...

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Look for the thick bar at the base of the 1, doubling on the lower loop of the first 8, and the curl remnants of a 6 inside the lower loop of the 6.
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 Posted 10/27/2008  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another pass at the date.
Disregard the color shift.
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 Posted 10/27/2008  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe this is a VAM-20 myself but definately a harshly cleaned coin
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 Posted 10/28/2008  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, 1st, is this coin wet or something like that?It almost looks like it was varnished or polyed. I really do not think this is a VAM20, WELL AT LEAST FROM THOSE PHOTOS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT YOU PAID FOR THE COIN. IF IT IS A '20" WITH A RARITY OF "7" YOU ARE A LUCKY PERSON, AND I WOULD PURCHASE A LOTTERY TICKET.I SEE THE CLOSE UP PICTURES YOU POSTED AND I STILL DO NOT THINK IT IS A REPUNCHED DATED MORGAN, BE WELL, MORGANS DAD...
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 Posted 10/29/2008  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wwhitman, without clearer pictures and since you mention no other doubling on the coin, the best I can do is VAM 7. High date, both open and closed 6. Yours is an open 6. I agree with others who posted, not a repunched date.
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10/29/2008 08:04 am
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 Posted 10/29/2008  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Morgans Dad,
The second closeup pic was made using the camera at full macro and using tungsten lighting. Since the camera has no color compensation, it turns the 'ugly color and looks awful'. The reason I did it that way was to get the closest possible pic.
I am an neophyte at the VAM process. I didn't know that the rest of the coin should be doubled as well. I thought it was the date only.
As I look at the coin I see:
the 1 and right /below the left hand part of it, I see another 1.
the 8s has the remnants of 8's inside the top circle on the right.
the 6 has similar remnants.
Thanx in advance - just trying to get a handle on this.
Oh, by the way I paid $17 USD
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 Posted 10/29/2008  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please explain exactly where the second numerals you see are, and what part of the 2nd numerals you seeare. This all has a bearing on the VAM attributed to the coin.

ie: You say you see another 1, well could you please be more specific, do you see the entire number one. Also the number 6 and what else you see in first 6 means the difference of many things.
Please be more precise as to what you see, I think we would all benefit from this , yourself inclusive.
PS: THANKS FOR THE PICTURE EXPLAINATION...
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 Posted 10/29/2008  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hang in there WW. Are these simular to what your seeing on your coin ?

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 Posted 10/29/2008  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MorgansRmine,
Similar but more pronounced.
If you check out the first '8' - reading left to right. It will appear that the top 0 of the 8 is partially filled. Looks like a verticle line in the pic.
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 Posted 10/29/2008  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MorgansRmine, nice pictures.If anyone can settle this, I would think you are a very strong canidate.I have been trying to extract more information.I am very curious as to the out come,BE WELL...
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