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What Are Some Of The Most Underappreciated And Undervalued Foreign Coins?

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In terms of underrated, I'd say Hong Kong, and straits settlements coinage are one example that comes to mind. Not the most extreme example but very low prices for most pieces below AU+
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I would certainly have to agree with Mr T.
Some of the Franklin Mint stuff is still regarded as junk.
However as with paintings of the Old Masters, you have to be dead before the value of your works start to be appreciated.

In particular, some base metal products of the Franklin Mint that were intended for circulation were minted in quantities of less than 1000, and were valued at less than $5 each.
They still are,
and they are absolutely impossible to find these days.
Examples are some of the copper nickel issues of Papua New Guinea.
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In general, I noticed it's when the particular country of the coin starts getting richer and the
local collectors now with more excess cash want to buy back their coinage, that's when the prices
start going up. Case in point is China about 10 years back.

Is this a more or less accurate observation ?
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I agree with numister's points completely. China and Russia are two prime examples. Hong Kong if you consider it's part of China. India is also on the list.

With this current pandemic on going, I believe prices will drop for good period of time. maybe a bargain for some but that's assuming that you have large savings and have a decent job.

People realise that you can't buy grocery with gold - rare instance of when gold price did stop shooting to the stars.
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Is this a more or less accurate observation ?


I believe yes. I was going to mention India. And probably a high grade 19th century rouble I bought about 20 years ago is the silver coin in my collection which has appreciated most in that time frame.

SO, unless it's already too late, the countries witht he fastest growing middle classes are:
China
India
Indonesia
Nigeria
Philippines (that one surprised me)

Time to start buying up those nice Philippine coins!



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Time to start buying up those nice Philippine coins!


Another "that ship has sailed", I think... especially top pieces.
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They still are, and they are absolutely impossible to find these days.


Too true.
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In general, I noticed it's when the particular country of the coin starts getting richer and the
local collectors now with more excess cash want to buy back their coinage, that's when the prices
start going up.


Good point.

Certainly there are other reasons, too. One, those countries have histories which correlated with others. A Dutch dealer informed me the Silver Riders were being bought up by some Chinese collectors for this reason.
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British silver coins from Victoria thru George VI are way undervalued in VG thru F grades. The new collectors can't afford coins in VF or better, so buy in VG or F but they're scarce because so many have been melted for scrap.

I expressed my surprise at a recent auction to the dealer who had bought a load of scrap shillings and florins (a florin was two shillings) (grading G to VG) for 70% over melt and he told me he could sell shillings for £5 and florins for £10, any day of the week. That's way above catalogue value in Fine.

If the lockdown ever ends, I'm going to be selling him my low-grade silver.
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I expressed my surprise at a recent auction to the dealer who had bought a load of scrap shillings and florins (a florin was two shillings) (grading G to VG) for 70% over melt and he told me he could sell shillings for £5 and florins for £10, any day of the week.


Sterling or 50%?
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Many coins are attractive to me, but unfortunately most of them attract little public attention. Now I am paying more attention to Fiji coins. This is a very exotic country and its coins are appropriate, but I am still convinced that they are not appreciated.

I also wanted to mention the coins of German New Guinea. Now they cost about $ 200 or higher. For me, this is too much for me to afford, but you look at their circulation, it is very small. They should cost a lot more
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SO, unless it's already too late, the countries witht he fastest growing middle classes are:
China
India
Indonesia
Nigeria
Philippines (that one surprised me)
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I was in Indonesia a few years ago. I bought some simple coins and banknotes in my collection there.
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I don't know what it is, but I remember that it cost too much, and besides, it's Details so I just took a photo and did not continue to pay attention to it
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Sleek: it is a pattern coin, not meant for circulation. This is why it's expensive
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hmmm Franklin Mint I would agree with others especial since there is very little demand/competition to pick up anything with their name on it. I'm not sure in the US, but know that in Australia dealer can't run fast enough away from these coins, you mention that mints name it almost like saying the devils name hahaha, I wonder why tho as I'm not old enough to know (from what I understand they went under but why does that have anything to do with their body of work) ?, for a shrewd collector there aren't a couple of types of coins that are very valuable that people are that aware of.

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they're scarce because so many have been melted for scrap.

This would apply to quite a lot of silver coins, like those huge 4-ounce Panamanian 20-balboas struck in the early 1970s. I agree with Pertinax that low-grade British silver is much scarcer than catalog values would suggest.

The Krause catalogs aren't a reliable guide to the values of modern European coins. For instance, Uncirculated 1994 French 5 francs with bee privy mark: US$1.65 in Krause, 110 euros in a French catalog! But of course a dealer outside France would have trouble getting €110 for one!
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