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Welcome to the world of throw-your-dice TPG grading, especially on toned coins. You are a subject, you have no input, and you WILL pay manipulated market prices for our coins if you want to own them. Edited by Coinfrog
05/23/2020 9:17 pm
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They don't "know" for a fact that the coin was artificially toned. That's why they called it "Questionable Color" rather than "Artificially toned." My guess is that if it were cracked out and resubmitted, it would have a good chance at coming back with a clean grade.
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Coinfrog basically summed it up.  -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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@Ariette
I guess what I'm wondering is what about the coin made PCGS think the toning was questionable in the first place. Were there any characteristics on the coin that would have been 'telling' that there may have been some artificial toning in the past?
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PCGS most likely gave the coin the sniffer test
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I guess what I'm wondering is what about the coin made PCGS think the toning was questionable in the first place. Were there any characteristics on the coin that would have been 'telling' that there may have been some artificial toning in the past? I'm with you in that the toning looks natural to me. From what I've seen, it seems that the grading services throw around the "Questionable Color" designation like it's nothing, and that many of these coins could come back without the designation if resubmitted. |
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My opinion? Because they spent 15-30 seconds looking at it, and it seemed different. Next!
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Look at a million of the same coin and oddball stand out like a sore thumb. I used to do something similar and eventually started noticing unpublished varieties.
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The first thing I thought of was the sniffer test. Also, they see a lot of coins and they get good at what they are doing. I have looked through a few coins in my day and can spot an "oddball" in seconds.When you see enough of what is and what isn't, it becomes second nature. John1  |
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@ John1
"Sniffer test"? What does this mean?
Do the graders also do a taste test haha?
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Sniffer test is a fancy machine the TPG's use to test for chemicals on the coins from cleaning or artificially toned. John1 |
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4 bids and it's up to $3.15. This is a coin of questionable value....
So far as the toning goes, anyone could do better than this with a skillet and a hotplate. Those wiped-looking smears are awful. One on the obverse looks like a hand print.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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05/24/2020 3:02 pm
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Maybe it was submitted to PCGS still wrapped in a Taco Bell napkin.
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