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1889-CC Morgan Silver Dollar Authenticity

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Hey guys! Here's an 1889 CC, I'm hoping this is real. It weighs 24.58 grams, the diameter is 37.96 mm and the thickness is 3.00 mm. I appreciate the help!
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Thanks, Brian
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Do a ping test, the color looks weird
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Well, compared to one my my pure silver dollars it sounds kinda off, like higher pitch.
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 Posted 06/10/2020  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the Morgan dollar page
Weight: 26.73 grams
Diameter: 38.1 millimeters

It does look like it was cleaned in the past.
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As stated spec was 26.73 grams tolerance was +/- .097 grams. Your coin is MORE than 2 grams light (around 21 times the allowed tolerance) and it is not extremely worn. Chances of it being real are pretty much zero.
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06/10/2020 02:03 am
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Details are off, such as date digits which aren't properly shaped.
As Condor says, the weight alone is enough to confirm counterfeit status.
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If you show your images right-side up, you'll get more replies.
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Fake
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F A K E
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1889 date does not look right at all. Font, size, spacing all adds up to F A K E !
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easy to figure out, where did you buy it, and how much did you pay for it? it's easily a 1,000$ coin in that condition,,
but you already know it is fake..
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Phake... RUN away...
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I have a genuine 1889 CC, and that coin is without question 100% FAKE.
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Thanks for all your help guys! I did pick it up for 40$ on ebay, I took a chance. The guy was a new seller who just listed the item and it was coming from Mar Del Plata, Argentina. At least I didn't blow like 200 on it. Though I wonder why somebody would go through all that effort to create a counterfeit just to sell it for 40 dollars. Guess I should go complain to ebay at this point.
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Is there a chance for returning the item? From Argentina, I'm guessing no. We've all fallen victim to some sort of coin problem so don't let it get you down. You've found a great place in CCF to avoid this in the future - don't hesitate to get input from the experts in the various areas before spending big money on anything.

I've found that someone will counterfeit ANYTHING that they think they can make a dollar with. And, at the very least, you have a counterfeit Morgan to use for educating other new collectors in the future.
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Though I wonder why somebody would go through all that effort to create a counterfeit just to sell it for 40 dollars.


The coin is a Chinese counterfeit and there are millions of Chinese counterfeits on the market. The question you should be asking is why someone would sell a $1000 + coin for $40?
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