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1889 CC Real Or? I'm Struggling With This One

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Real or fake ? Please help. Thanks in advance.
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Why do you believe it's fake? So I know what to look for in the future ty
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.... to the Community!

1. Where did you source the coin?

2. How much did you pay for it?

The toning is a characteristic of counterfeit coins from China. I suspect your coin to be counterfeit, too.
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 Posted 06/16/2020  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Quincy777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yah right on the money! Came from China and I spent about 150$
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Letters are wrong, also looks like someone took a bite out of Eagles right wing.
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Ouch. Hope you bought from a seller with a return policy.
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yah right on the money! Came from China and I spent about 150$


Ouch!

I hope you bought it from a Seller that you can get your money back from.

Good luck!
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Long story short I didn't end up paying for it but received it anyway. But the coin looks beautiful but I had my doubts. It's not magnetic and the scale was right too. I did see the right wing and thought that was odd because the field before it so clean and smooth no way a chunk came out of the wing and the field looks that good.
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Looks like a cast fake. Those are made by taking an impression of a real coin, so the details are kind of right, and then filling the mold with metal. Forgers are cheap, so they seldom use silver, which results in an unnatural grayish appearance. Telltale signs are a coin that looks worn, but has no signs of rub or marks and missing strike detail such as that missing chunk of the wing on the reverse. Any time a rare coin is sold cheap, or isn't in a slab, that is also a strong sign of a counterfeit. Anyone with a genuine EF-40 1889-CC Morgan is going to get it into a slab and sell it for $1500 not $150.
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Probably brass inside
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You didn't wonder what a rare 1889-CC US dollar was doing in China for a giveaway price?
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Personally, I would get my $150 back ASAP if this had happened or does happen to me.

Simply on general principle alone. In my humble opinion.
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Glad to hear you didn't have to pay for it. I hate to say it, but half the globe from Eastern Europe to the Pacific is crossed off my list unless I'm buying a common coin/banknote of that country's origin. I'm actually afraid that in the very near future the counterfeits will be indistinguishable from genuine coins and numismatics will be dead as we know it.
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This piece was struck from a known reverse die, they use the same reverse for all their CC dates.
Look at the gash on the eagle's breast....
Interestingly I don't see the dot above the D in Dollars.
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