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1865 Liberty Seated Half Dollar, MS? Pr?

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Wanted to know if this half dollar is a sharp MS example or possibly Proof? Possible grade?

Weight: 12.43 g


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Appears to be a mis-handled proof - I'll say PR-58.
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Lightly circulated proof but they may give it a PF 62-63 grade.

Nice coin!
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I can't tell if it's a polished business strike or a proof. Either way it's worth thousands of dollars if genuine.
How did you acquire it?
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I'm also suspect of its surface originality, I'm leaning towards polished myself
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I'd say proof as well. First set of pics look like a straight grade. Second set look like it's been polished. If it straight grades, I can't see this getting higher than PR60.
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Looks polished and or fake. I am no pro so I will for the pros.
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Doesn't look authentic to me. Maybe polished like other have indicated.
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Comparing the rim and details to this coin https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...0c-cam/86419, I think this one is a mis-handled Proof. If it's fake, it is a real good one.
Looks like it has been dipped at least once, maybe more.
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everything is pointing to proof if its real. this one is worth authentication and grading.
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I think polished at some point. Even a proof that old isn't going to stay that shinny.
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It looks like it was covered with something (maybe lacquer?) and then polished off. Take a look at the reverse between 6-10 and looks like something on it. The letters in that area look smooth (the way it should) but has something on it, the rest of the denomination looks like polishing and would make a rough surface on the letters, just like the surface on the obverse on Liberty's skin surface. Not original surfaces but is a real Seated half dollar.
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Proof, UNC Details
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First,

How many reeds are on the edge? It should have 145, 152, or 153.
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Quote:
It looks like it was covered with something (maybe lacquer?)


That's what I thought when I saw it... Looks like it had a coat of lacquer.
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Proof details, some type of environmental damage. Have you tried an acetone soak?
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