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Replicas Or Real? (Id: Replica 1788 Massachusetts Cents)

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 Posted 11/16/2008  6:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Brian to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found these two coins as a kid in about 1965. I always assumed they were real until a couple of years ago when I started doing some internet research on them. I found some postings somewhere that showed the same coin... can't remember where and also can't remember the reason but the poster said the ones shown (not mine) were fakes.

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Is there any way to determine, other than an authentication service, whether or not these are real? I had always heard that coins of this era were hand stamped so there would be slight differences in each coin. I would think that copies would be produced by more modern methods. Looking closely there are definitely minor differences in these coins. If copies, does anyone know the history of why someone would produce copies?

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Sad to say, but both of these are somewhat crudely made copies. Here's an authentic one. To me, the most noticeable difference is the lettering; it's in a seriffed font, like THIS. Your coins are more of a "hand-drawn" style, without serifs, like THIS.

Second, the detail on the shield is mostly missing - specifically, the denomination is supposed to be written there, either CENT or HALF CENT. This detail is blurred beyond recognition on your coin, just a couple of blobs where the letters should be.


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...If copies, does anyone know the history of why someone would produce copies?

There are a multitude of possible reasons. These are too crude to fool an experienced collector or coin dealer, so I don't think the manufacturer was trying to fool anybody. They may have been sold as souvenirs at some kind of colonial-period tourist attraction; or it may have been part of a (misguided) attempt at getting people interested in coin collecting ("Collect the full set of authentic imitation replica colonial coins!!). Without a maker's name or other context, I don't think it's possible to be certain.

The lack of the word "COPY" stamped on them dates them to before 1973, when the Hobby Protection Act made this a legal requirement for manufactured or imported replica coins.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats what I figured, thanks!
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The lack of the word "COPY" stamped on them dates them to before 1973, when the Hobby Protection Act made this a legal requirement for manufactured or imported replica coins.


Unfortunately this law is not always obeyed. There are many replicas sold today which do not bear the word "COPY." I posted pictures of a few I bought last year in this thread. None had "COPY" imprinted on them.
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