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1973 Sudan 5 Millim Spectacular Doubled Die

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 Posted 07/18/2020  1:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thegrendel to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This doubled die has wide separation, easily visible with the naked eye. It's strange seeing Arabic script doubled.

Got it on ebay for a quite reasonable price. Comparable doubling on a US coin would have been way out of reach for me.

The final image is of a normal strike, for comparison.
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 Posted 07/18/2020  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow @tg, that is dramatic doubling!
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 Posted 10/02/2020  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thegrendel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just acquired a second specimen of this very same doubled die on ebay -- 1973 Sudan 5 Millim. Virtually identical to the one pictured above. And recently there was a third one for sale, also on ebay. Makes me wonder just how rare this particular error is.
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 Posted 10/27/2020  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is indeed spectacular! Very nice!

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 Posted 02/25/2022  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffbuckes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@thegrendel -

May I ask how much you paid for this piece? The doubling is dramatic and has great eye apeal.

As you suggested, a similar error on a US coin would likely cost hundreds or thousands of dollars?
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 Posted 02/25/2022  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jeff, have you tried using the search sold items feature on ebay? You should be able to find prices on all of them.
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Sudan is one of the few African countries to have its own mint, in the capital Khartoum. Quality control at what is essentially a third-world homegrown facility is not expected to be worlds-best-practice; I would assume and predict that mint errors on Sudanese coins generally to be far more common than on Western mints.
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@Spence -

Good idea but ... this thread is 18+ months old. ebay sold feature doesn't go back that far, does it? I see one of these sold last week for $25. I wonder if that's standard value, which is why I revived the thread.

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I bet you're right. OP said he bought two of these and found a third on ebay the same week. Now I see one sold last week and at least 2 more for sale now on ebay. So it's NOT a rare coin, but still a brilliant example of doubled die coin. IMHO that is a very desirable piece, and I think 25 bucks is about right. And that's why I wondered what OP paid for his...
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Ah ok great point. I hadn't noticed that you had revived such an old thread. Sounds like you have a target though. Be sure to open up a new thread to show off your example of this coin when you pick up one.
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Quote:
As you suggested, a similar error on a US coin would likely cost hundreds or thousands of dollars?

First, a Doubled Die is a variety, not an error as it is on the hub die.
Also there could tens of thousands or even more out there,
depending on how many were struck from that particular die.
It is so pronounced that it makes you wonder if this was not
done intentionally in order to sell more coins.
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@JimmyD -


Quote:
First, a Doubled Die is a variety, not an error as it is on the hub die.


Of course, very true!

To be clear, my interest in this coin is not rarity or value, but in eye appeal. I stumbled across this thread browsing for info on world coins and like what I saw here.

I now see at least 2 of these coins on ebay and wondered what OP paid nearly 2 years ago. The coin itself is ~50 years old so the doubling is well established. The value should be fairly stable. Just wonderong about OP's experience.
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In answer to Jeff's question, I paid $23 + shipping. There is another one of these on ebay, item # 384755488987 at $25 OBO + $4 shipping. I won't be buying this one, as I already have two of them.
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@thegrendel

Looks like $25+s/h is the going rate even a few years later. I think you made a good buy! It's a nice coin anyway and the strong doubled die is a bonus. Thanks for following up on this old thread!
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I offered him $20 and he took it.
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I'm glad the coin on ebay found a good home. And, hopefully, foreign errors and varieties begin to get the respect they deserve.
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