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Lincoln 1983 Partial Date On Reverse?. 2.5g Zinc

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Any input would be appreciated.


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This looks to me like a 'vise job', where someone has squeezed your penny between two others so that parts of the designs of the other coins were transferred to your coin. I'm sure other member will have ideas.
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NumisRob interesting idea, I would have never guessed that could be the case, but that is definitely not one I had considered. After looking at it more closely, the numbers are absolutely recessed, but not uniform. I would think in a vice they would be more uniform, across a flat plane.
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PSD, if it were raised that would be different. It is incused and the date is reversed. And it is from a different year as well. Spender.
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Definitely an actual vise job. The numbers are incuse and reversed.

Also, you can see the cross-hatching on the obverse from the face of the benchtop vise.


EDIT: I retract that part about cross-hatching because upon closer examination it is the reverse design (building and columns) from a third Memorial cent used for this vise job. The incuse (recessed) design elements and the second date being backwards is the giveaway.
Your coin was sandwiched between two other ones and pressure was applied to create the secondary elements.
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I would really tend to agree with you guys, however after closer inspection and review of your comments, Viewing the coin itself, the scratches above liberty are on a curve, and they are lower than the letters "LIBERTY". Also, since I have the coin in hand I can see where the die is lightly punched for the letters "IN" and much thicker for "GOD" then appears between the two sizes for WE TRUST.

Also on the reverse, the coin appears to have a thicker lettering around "ONE" and the edge of the coin is deeper.

Any thoughts? could it have been struck while in the reverse die? Just curios. Thank you all for your input.
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I'm in the vise job camp.
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John1, Thanks for you input. Just looked at the coin again, and the "LIBE" in LIBERITY also appears to be a lite strike. Any thoughts?
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Definitely a vise job.



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Vise or mallet job.
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On reverse. Could damage to rim be proof of vise job?
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LIBE looks normal to me. All you have is a spendable coin.
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Damage doesn't make something rare. If so my car would be worth a fortune. (Save the best, spend the rest) Move on to the next coin.
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Thank you everyone for you input. I know a picture is worth a thousand words, and the better the picture the better the representation. I will admit I am a novice, but some things don't add up with the consistency of a vice. It's very difficult to evaluate and If I had better pictures mildly confident the pictures would add up to the reverse strike was done while in the obverse die. I don't have the knowledge that 99 percent of the people on this forum have, and I really do appreciate anyone's input. I believe the tell tail sign is the letters "GOD" on the bend being raised approximately 50 percent or more than all of the others "IN WE TRUST" maybe the evidence it was struck this way. I will try to upload that representation ASAP. Would anyone agree or disagree? Thank you.
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I think it would be unfruitful to post any more pics. It is a damaged coin that did not leave the mint in the shape that it is in now.
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Thank you to everyone for your responses. They are appreciated. I won't attach anymore pictures as my abilities are limited. I have one last question related to this coin. If this was done at the mint, wouldn't it be consistent that on the curve the letters "GOD" would have a deeper stamp on the curve compared to the rest of the coin?
Thank you everyone for your responses.
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