Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer 300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

PCGS Vs. You: 1795 Flowing Hair Half Dollar

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 2,143Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
Adam590's Avatar
United States
752 Posts
 Posted 07/25/2020  8:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have looked online at many of these in every grade I could see. It is amazing to me how some of the high end VF ones at first glance look better than even low end AU ones! I am very curious to see if people here agree on how they would grade this, or if the spread of answers will be as wide as I think it might be.



PCGS-Vs.-You:-1795-Flowing-Hair-Half-Dollar
PCGS-Vs.-You:-1795-Flowing-Hair-Half-Dollar
Edited by Adam590
07/25/2020 8:46 pm
Pillar of the Community
Numis-Northerner's Avatar
Canada
857 Posts
 Posted 07/25/2020  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably A technical EF with a somewhat light cleaning, what PCGS gave it really could be between a VF-30 (that's what I would personally grade it as, using my own standards) to as high as AU-55, given the leniency they usually give to coins like this I am leaning towards the latter.
Edited by Numis-Northerner
07/25/2020 8:51 pm
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Pacificoin's Avatar
Canada
5394 Posts
 Posted 07/25/2020  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF 45 , based on what I have seen lately .
Pillar of the Community
westernsky's Avatar
United States
7620 Posts
 Posted 07/25/2020  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU 50 would not surprise me at all!
Pillar of the Community
Jaobler's Avatar
United States
6385 Posts
 Posted 07/25/2020  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF45 seems fair, with a shot at AU50. This is a very nice piece by the way, much finer than my type example which is graded PCGS VF25. Are you considering a purchase?
Pillar of the Community
Ty2020b's Avatar
United States
4680 Posts
 Posted 07/25/2020  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks XF40- XF45 to me
Pillar of the Community
Slider23's Avatar
United States
4469 Posts
 Posted 07/25/2020  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to net grade to VF 25 because of old cleaning.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
GrapeCollects's Avatar
United States
8938 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU50
Pillar of the Community
Adam590's Avatar
United States
752 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. We already are ranging from VF(25-30) to AU(50)! This one, which is NOT mine, is the same grade as mine, but seems to have MUCH more detail, especially on the eagle--again, this is why I am asking about this one. Others in the same grade as mine seem to have significantly less detail too...The standards seem all over the place!

PCGS-Vs.-You:-1795-Flowing-Hair-Half-Dollar
PCGS-Vs.-You:-1795-Flowing-Hair-Half-Dollar

Mine actually has traces of luster (if looked at from the right angle), and a pretty original gray patina, which is cool because a lot of the 1795 half dollars I have looked at seem to be very dark.

@Jaobler: Thanks! I actually purchased this one already (it was my big purchase of the year) for a type set of half dollars (I am pretending the 1796 and 1797 ones don't exist). Does yours have comparable details?


Edited by Adam590
07/26/2020 01:31 am
Pillar of the Community
TobyJ's Avatar
United Kingdom
1273 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF45, really nice.
Moderator
Learn More...
John1's Avatar
United States
56855 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in the 40-45 camp.
John1
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
panzaldi's Avatar
United States
18665 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU50
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say EF-45.
Bedrock of the Community
paralyse's Avatar
United States
12057 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My grade is XF40 net VF30 due to the light "X" shaped scratch on the cheek and some minor surface disturbances. It is not a deep scratch but it is in a key focal area. That being said, it doesn't really matter what someone graded it at a TPG. It's a beautiful and historical coin which would be the centerpiece of a great many half-dollar type sets, mine included (the oldest I have is an 1806.) If the rest of your half dollars are of similar quality and scarcity, your set will be a pleasure to view.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890

"Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Pillar of the Community
Adam590's Avatar
United States
752 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here it is! Thanks for sharing your opinions, and yeah, it seems like there is a lot of subjectivity in how these early US coins are graded, even by the professionals! I like my example--and I like the price I got it for. I posted another example of the same grade which seems to have many more details, but I wonder if it has the same original color and traces of luster mine has. Eventually, I will want to upgrade this one to one with less wear on the cheek and the eagle's eye being more clearly visible, but for now, this is a flagstone in my collection.

Thanks for your personal and passionate response, @paralyse. Sometimes TPG distracts us from the actual coins in favor of bold-faced font behind plastic. This is the lowest grade half dollar in my type collection (my 1807 one is EF(45), but weakly struck and my 1892 Barber Half is AU(50)), but it certainly has its originality, beauty, and history on its side. With silver half dollars and dollars of this era, fifty cents was a lot of money then, and I always wonder if a famous person or founding father once held this coin. Oh, the stories we wish they could tell us!


PCGS-Vs.-You:-1795-Flowing-Hair-Half-Dollar
Pillar of the Community
Numis-Northerner's Avatar
Canada
857 Posts
 Posted 07/26/2020  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Imo, though higher than I personally would grade it, I still think XF-40 is a fair grade considering.
  Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 2,143Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.34 seconds to rattle this change. Forums