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Can Anyone Help Me Grade My Silver Coins And Give Me Some Advice?

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 Posted 09/08/2020  09:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Honk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys,

Because of Covid-19 I lost my job a couple of months ago and have some financial difficulties at the moment. Anyway, I'm not going to waste your time with negative vibes :)

I used to collect British Commonwealth coins when I was a kid and have a bunch of cypriot silver coins of King Edward IV and Queen Victoria. I'm interested in selling these coins in bulk now and was wondering if anyone here could help me grade my coins?
I recently bought a Krause coin catalogue but I think it's really difficult to give my coins an approximate grading. Can anyone please help me? It doesn't have to be 100% accurate. I'm just trying to figure out how much I can sell the whole lot for on ebay.

There are some key dates and low mintages in the lot by the way. Number #1 in the picture is actually one of the rarest British coins of Cyprus with a very low mintage number. Only 20.000 were minted on a single issue (1907). Unfortunately it has a lot of dark spots. Number #5 and #6 are also pretty low mintage with only 60,000 issued (1907). Number #7 is has only 25,000 issues.

Pic #1:

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Pic #2:

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A screenshot from the Krause catalog of the coins with their values etc:

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Thank you for your time!
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09/08/2020 09:17 am
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 Posted 09/08/2020  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better wait for more experienced members.
it is better to put each one alone to give you better grading as possible .
I think the majority are in the VF range maybe one or 2 could be XF .
Some have also some environmental damage.
did you try to clean them before ?
I hope you will find a job soon and You will get out of your financial difficulties as fast as possible !
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 Posted 09/08/2020  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I think the better half are in VG condition with a few Good, and a few Fine. Some look cleaned.
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 Posted 09/08/2020  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the kind words chronos. I really appreciate it.

No no, they have not been cleaned. I've barely touched them. And I'm 100% sure that my old grandma didn't clean them either. Maybe it's because of the camera?
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 Posted 09/08/2020  10:00 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Average circulated coins . As stated many cleaned coins , minimal value
and very difficult to sell except as bullion silver .
Low Mintage is meaningless if there is little demand .
High grade ( which these are definitely NOT) Early Cyprus
Is easy to sell , coins like yours will gather minimal interest .
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 Posted 09/08/2020  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I checked PCGS population page , these are quite rare to find ,many are graded even they are not in MS or AU condition
check this :https://www.PCGS.com/valueview/cypr...148281&h=pop
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Thank you for the great link chronos. Will definitely look around more in this great source. Population reports are important.

Two of the coins I own was sold for €750 each, in XF condition though, so I don't think my coins are worthless in VF condition. Another coin I own was sold in June 30 (VF) for €70. Also, if you do an advanced search on ebay you see that Cypriot coins around this era is being sold almost every third day, so I don't think there is minimal interest either, but rather a decent interest. At least if you look on ebay.
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 Posted 09/08/2020  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Then try your luck on ebay or elsewhere.
There is not a single coin your picturing
That comes anywhere near European VF .
Best of Luck !
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 Posted 09/08/2020  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting group, sadly the high catalogue prices are likely to be from a 1980s or 1990s catalogue judging by typeface, the minimum condition in that catalogue is VF.

Your coins are mostly VG to Fine or Average circulated, they are not bad but probably on average 25 - 50% catalogue value of the VF price and then real retail is half of that so your $200 coin becomes $25 or $30.

In all you probably have $100 or $200 worth - around €100 or so, the silver value would be high around €8 per 18 piastre coin.

I find the portrait of Victoria interesting, its not very flattering, but I guess since the coin is dated 1901 and she was only alive for 6% of that year, she could not really register her lack of amusement at that portrait.

I have a set of Cypriot stamps going back to 1878 and are familiar with currency then. Basically 40 Para = Piastre, and 180 Piastres = One pound sterling, it was basically borrowed from the old Turkish Pound which was 100 Piastres (In Egypt and most colonies, but Kurus in Turkey itself)

Britain also only leased Cyprus until 1922 as Turkey remained overlord of it and full colonial status only came in 1928.

In 1955 they switched to a new currency of 1000 mils = 100 cents - 1 Cyprus Pound and in 2008 joined the Euro family along with my other favourite stamp country - Malta.
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 Posted 09/08/2020  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Princetane: Thank you for an awesome post. I didn't knew that Queen Victoria lived only 6% of that year. That's very interesting.

No, the screenshot is actually taken from a Krause catalogue from 2019 (!). The 46'th edition.

I have thousands of stamps from that period (1881-1924) as well and love them. I collected those since I was a kid as well.
Malta is also one of my absolute favorite stamp countries :D

Cheers!
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 Posted 09/08/2020  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loruca to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're getting some pretty downer comments on this thread,
Overall, your best bet is by far ebay, Cypriot coins tend to garner exceedingly good prices there, and have quite a following, likely upwards of 60-65% of catalog value.
Your coins would likely ALL benefit from a bath in acetone, the "black stuff" is not oxidation or toning, but dirt, getting it off can only benefit those coins.

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 Posted 09/09/2020  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the kind response Loruca.

Yes, I agree that cypriot coins have a good following on ebay. It's not difficult to do an advanced search of sold "cypriot coins". Cypriot coins are being sold there everyday.

I just wasn't sure if it was dirt or not and I absolutely don't want to clean coins if it's not dirt. I've been hearing my whole life to never clean coins.
Are there any good tutorials of cleaning the dirt on YouTube?

Thank you for your time.
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Are there any good tutorials of cleaning the dirt on YouTube?


I tend to stick with acetone and a tooth-pick - can't to any real damage that way.
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 Posted 09/09/2020  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the darkness is because of my phone camera. Here is a scanned photo of some of the coins (#9-12) I took a couple of years ago. Do they look better in this picture?

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