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1882-CC Morgan PCGS Graded Vs You And Your Thoughts!

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 Posted 11/01/2020  03:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add villagekid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
It's a problems free MS example 82-CC Morgan.
Please give your grade and any thoughts to your grade.
Likes Dislikes Qualities Eye Appeal that sort of criteria.
The pics are from another owner...this is the best
photo's that I can offer.
Every coin that I've seen from this owner depicts
better in hand regarding luster and detail.
He's an honest fella!
Appreciate any and all insight..Thanks!
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 Posted 11/01/2020  03:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's 4am and I'm not tired so I'll give a full breakdown.

The obverse shows frosty complete luster with a crisp and strong strike that shows full details. The bagmarks in front of the face appear to be shallow and while the eye is drawn to them are not overly distracting. The cheek and neck show additional marks but are well concealed by the otherwise frosty surfaces. The high points show some scattered marks but aren't noticeable.

Obv Grade: MS63.
Eye Appeal: 6/10

The reverse is much cleaner than the obverse, but that's par for the course with this series. The scattered bagmarks are all in the fields and in the "protected" areas. As such they don't catch the eye much. As previously noted the strike is crisp and full with frosty luster. Notably there is a large hit on the rim at 6:00. There is a die clash present on the reverse as well.

Rev Grade: MS-63
Eye Appeal: 6/10

Total Grade: MS-63
Eye Appeal: 6/10

Nice coin
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 Posted 11/01/2020  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hunter611 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say 63/64. Question: Is the nose nic a rub or deeper?
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I'll say good shot at 64.
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MS-64 for me as well.
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average strike for this year. the lighting is a little overdone. some minor abrasions and rub on both sides. it's a nice CC and I think its in the MS64 box. I like grapes assessment on the coin but I think he might be a tad low on the final grade.
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Also agree with 64, maybe with a +
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Looks like a nice frosty MS-64.
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i think its a nice looking example of a MS-64
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I'm at MS63 or MS64 depending on luster and the field area in front of the face, light scuffs MS64 deeper hits/scrapes MS63.
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I'm at 63 on this one.
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Love all the comments and support from everyone especially
GrapeCollects...4:00 in the morn...WOW!
To take the time and effort breaking the criteria into both sides of the coin with such precision...much appreciated!.
Also, the die clash that you referenced may be a VAM variety which is a hit list 40.
By the way, the coin was graded in an OGH MS-64
It will be arriving in a few days and I look forward having it in hand. After I inspect it, I should know
what VAM variety it may be attributed.
Thanks Folks!




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It looks like a solid 64 to me. Would probably be a good candidate for a CAC green sticker.
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with BH1964 might go MS65 toady from this new photo, the scuffs are minimal I can tell now. More like luster voids, not affecting the surface I think. Nice dollar. Might even get a Gold bean but probably not, at least a green at a minimum from CAC.
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 Posted 11/03/2020  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add villagekid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello BH1964 and westcoin,
I'm sort of foreign to CAC certification and how it works, cost, where to send, benefits etc!. It's sounds interesting and has caught my interest. Gold Bean? I don't know what this term means...sorry, I plead total ignorance here!

Also, if this is a Hit List 40 VAM (I collect VAMS as well) will I be able to have CAC attribute with a sticker?
Reason I Ask? I don't plan on re-slabbing which may be normal protocol for some folks to do in order to get a VAM Variety, especially when it hits Top 50 or Hit List 40. In other words, I want to keep this coin in the OGH.

Please give your thoughts and educate me here.
I'm open to this CAC concept. Thanks!
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