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@rw, it looks like these interesting areas are incuse (material removed so below the surrounding fields). If that is true, then this is much more likely to be damage after the coin left the mint. Normally, a shattered die looks like a whole bunch of die cracks that have started to connect to each other.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Shattered die was the closest I could get to identifying this.I was going to mention that this doesn't look like a typical shattered die. If not that then what? High pressure strike? That was all I could come up with. The reeds show this was something that happened during striking. Hard to identify. All clean lines. Not looking like PMD to me
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Thanks spence. Have you seen anything similar before?
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@rw, can you confirm if the two areas (on AMERICA on the obv( and PLURIBUS on the rev) are right next to each other? If so, then someone may have taken wire cutters to this coin. I can picture them squeezing, dragging to a different angle, squeezing, and so forth until they create what kinda looks like a spiders web to me. That theory would also explain the pairing of more typical damage at OF and the date.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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All that looks like PMD IMO. Looks exactly like someone took small wire cutters to it.
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Thanks Adam e. I was thinking similar but look at the reeds where its possibly damaged. I couldn't figure it out. It does look pinched but not showing on the reeds
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It is altered in two places.
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Thanks coop. I was just trying to rap my head around the idea of this much pressure on both sides without destroying the reeds in between. Maybe just interesting damage
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Very unusual, that's for sure! I'd guess PMD, only because I cannot see anything in the minting process that would cause this sort of damage. Thanks for sharing!
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@rw, as you may know, some wire cutters have a small hollowed out section on the jaws used for stripping the insultation off of wires. I suppose that someone could orient this cut-out section on the rim to avoid damaging it while they work their mischief. 
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Thanks merclover and spence. I had this for a little while but couldn't figure why it looks like incuse mint damage. Could be anything
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I can't envision how PMD could create concentric circles around the U of UNUM without damaging the lettering. I'm thinking maybe defective planchet.
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Thanks nick10. Hats also a possibility. Something caused a shockwave on metal so I'm thinking it happened in the collar. Could be the planchet or the die. Had to be tons of pressure in a split second to cause a shockwave on metal. At least that's what I'm thinking
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Mint luster suggests a mint error 
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