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Your Opinion - Toned Versus Clean

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 Posted 12/17/2020  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am enjoying the insight here. Thanks and keep the choices coming!
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 Posted 12/17/2020  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2,3,1,4.
Very good reason why 2 is the most preferable, especially in MS68
2 is the coin that is closest to the condition it was in immediately after it was struck, and has nothing to do with eye appeal.

In reality, very attractive toning is just another form of surface corrosion, even though it may have absolutely zero effect on the grade. And that is not forgetting the fact that attractive toning has a positive effect on eye appeal, and perhaps the value as well.

My lesser choices 3,1 and 4 are based purely on eye appeal.

If rainbow toners are preferred, they can be artificially produced, provided that you have the required skill level. Once toned though, it is impossible to bring them back to blast white.

Why is sterling silver tableware polished occasionally?
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12/17/2020 9:55 pm
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2 is the coin that is closest to the condition it was in immediately after it was struck, and has nothing to do with eye appeal.

I completely disagree with this statement/opinion. To my eyes, #2 is the most appealing.




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As a fan of attractive toning, I'd say #1, 3, and then 2. #4 doesn't even make the list.
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1, 3, 4, 2
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 Posted 12/18/2020  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2,3,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,4
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3, 2, 1, 4 works for me. I do like toning.
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I like to see the coins, and don't care how someone else might value it. Give me the shiny one that I can see!
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Just as you have them, 1, 2, 3 then 4
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Thank you for the continued comments. What spurred me to do this was a visit to PCGS's price guide. All three examples they show at the top of the Antietam guide are toned coins - thought that was odd.
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1, 1, 1, 1...
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I agree with commems that #2 is the most appealing, but that is our preference.

I accept the opinions of others who prefer toned coins.
Numismatic market pricing seems to support the preference of these collectors.
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Anything except #2. I don't like dipped coins and there's no way this one hasn't had a bath after 83 years. Looks as if it had tab tone which was rinsed off and has begun to reform. #4 is a little too far gone ; somebody mentioned 'borderline environmental damage' which is a reasonable interpretation. 3-1-4-2.
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 Posted 12/20/2020  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2, 1, 3 and like most others 4 would be last.
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