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1803 Draped Bust Half Dollar Legit?!

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 Posted 12/26/2020  03:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinHunter00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, Ive recently looked into acquiring a bust half and came upon one that I was a little suspicious about. I shop on instagram, ebay, etc. and have a basic idea of sellers that are trustworthy and those that are not. That being said, the seller claims the coin is authentic and I wanted to post it here to see what everyone else had to say. Thanks in advance! :D

Also, if authentic, any idea what a good price/value would be for this?!

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 Posted 12/26/2020  05:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not a specialist in this series, so take with a grain of salt my opinion that the coin looks wrong to my eye and I would be very suspicious of authenticity.

Also - it's dated 1803 but your thread references an 1804 dated coin. Is this the correct photo?
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 Posted 12/26/2020  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake
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I'm not seeing anything that makes me think it's fake so I may learn something here.

Here's my 1803

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Could you explain why you think that?

I'm always suspicious of of high value coins that aren't slabbed, but I don't see anything that jumps out to indicate a counterfeit.
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Sharper pics would help us evaluate the surfaces better.
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Pass on the coin unless the seller is willing to send photos that are in focus. The value depends a lot on the grade if the coin was VF details $350 and XF40 straight grade $1400, but can not grade from these photos.
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I'm nowhere near an expert on these, buts looks OK to me.
The die lines in the ear are on both coins...
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Sorry, I fixed the heading!! And it seems like there are a lot of mixed responses so I am still pretty confused! Also, I am waiting for additional photos here! Thank you all for the replies!!
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I am no expert on draped bust dollars, having stopped collecting US type coins 40 years ago but the obverse rim is totally wrong for an early bust coin struck without a collar. Should be denticles, not a perfect raised rim. Should have denticles all around like cipster's coin has. My vote is fake
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As I say, better pics needed. Almost certainly some attempt at cleaning.
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The obverse rim looks okay to me for a VF draped bust half dollar. It's a large 3 variety, and it matches Overton-103 exactly, so I'm leaning towards genuine (unless it's a cast counterfeit). As others have mentioned, the photos aren't good enough to assess the surfaces, so it could be a details coin.
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Better pics are needed.
Also a pic of the rim from the side.
Need weight.

As mentioned by jfransch the rim doesn't look right.
The stars look wrong also.
Cleaning is often used to disguise a fake by the way.
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OK, you guys are scaring the cr*p out of me as I bought mine raw from a good friend who owned it for many years. Mine looks like a twin of the ops coin.

Here's an incredible coincidence. I'm so bored that I recently sent this coin out for grading along with many others so let's see how that goes.
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Genuine IMO. I've bought and sold over a dozen raw bust halves and dollars with no issues. As long as you can properly attribute the coin and be sure of it's authenticity it's a non issue
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