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Hey all, Well I've found some interesting purposeful PMD before but this one caught my eye for its size and nice rim. I'm posting for two reasons: 1. I think its cool, someone spent some time on this guy - too bad they put it in acid I think too 2. On the off chance someone thinks its a wrong planchet :) (yes doubtful I know) It weighs 2.13g. Happy Saturday! -GB     
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@earle42 - the rim has the thickness of a normal Lincoln Wheat cent. Here is a picture. Damaged/error coin is on the right.  But even though it's the same thickness, looking at the rim, it does look ever so slightly rounded compared to the normal Wheat cent, which probably confirms monkey business or Dryer Coin. But I would assume for losing more than 30% of its weight it would be a bit abnormal for a Dryer Coin without a more pronounced rim? Either way, great read on Dryer Coins - thanks for sharing, very education. -GB
Edited by GBiscuits 01/10/2021 12:54 am
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Looks like acid damage to me. John1 
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Acid sounds about right. I agree with John.
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For sure it has lost a lot of mass, perhaps through an acid bath. However, the difference in diameter seems attributable to some other process, either spooning or a Dryer Coin. My thought is that we have multiple forms of damage here.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Dreams crushed, but Makes sense to me what Spence says. It's probably some deliberate monkey business in multiple ways. I do have a wrong planchet question for you guys though as it relates to a coin like this for me in the future.
When you have a wrong planchet error of a larger coin being placed on a smaller planchet coin, would there be a complete rim? Or would the die (for lack of a better word) "smoosh" one part or the whole of the rim based on where the planchet landed between the dies?
Thanks -GB
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Dryer Coin sounds logical, but I'm not completely sold on the idea. Spence is right with the acid theory, how some other process would be to be involved. A foreign planchet is a long shot, but who knows? I'd love to see what coop has to say about this coin. 
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Something in the back of my mind seems to re-call high voltage (energy) can shrink a coin..Thought I read about it here on CCF...  but can't find anything from the search box.....maybe it was a dream.. 
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I'd love to hear more about Greasy's theory, sounds interesting. Another thought popped into my head... what if this tiny cent is a poor attempt at a counterfeit? It has the look of a cast coin, plus the overall details are sorely lacking. Why counterfeit a common nearly worthless coin? Well, once upon a time a cent could buy something, and even this very crude bad example could easily mix-in with other coins. Maybe it has even fooled all of us? 
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Well, had energy been applied to this coin in order to shrink it, it would have a much smaller diameter...I checked out uTube and found a few videos and a link to a neat site..Check out Capturedlighting.com for many examples of shrunken coins.....talk about deflation.. 
Edited by Greasy Fingers 01/11/2021 01:21 am
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Greasy's Quote:Quote: Something in the back of my mind seems to re-call high voltage (energy) can shrink a coin. coupled with merclover's Quote: I'd love to hear more about Greasy's theory, sounds interesting. Sends chills up this old man's spine. Born in the late 40's, I grew up in the '50's extremely poor and housed in poor neighborhoods. An affordable rental for families like mine consisted of very old houses with very little recent upkeep. Electricity passed into the dwelling through a fuse box. If you were to take a modern screw-in light bulb, clear away all its glass and put a flat glass cover on the threaded metal base, it would resemble a fuse of that era. (The LWC pictured above would have seen around two decades of circulation back then.) Fuses blew their heavy filaments just as light bulbs blow their thin ones. Problem was., many a family who lacked a spare fuse when they needed the lights back on discovered a solution: pull some plugs out of the wall sockets; remove the blown fuse and insert a LWC into the fuse box far enough to close the circuit. Most got away with it because wiring and fuses were a bit primitive back then. Just having too many plugs in the wall would blow a fuse. It seemed to me as a child, that fuses were made to blow in our old dwelling just as wheels were made to roll on the street outside -- and just as often. However, if a short circuit somewhere in an unfortunate family's house wiring was the cause of the fuse blowing, the "penny in the fuse box" would burn the house down often taking a child or a whole family down with it. I'm happier with the drier coin gambit. Kevin
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