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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm not sure. It looks like it *might* be a B-17 but I'm no expert on these.
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin doesn't strike me as an obvious fake but I am no expert on these. The seller appears to be very reliable and I would personally trust them. (That either it is good, of they will make it right if it is not)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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To my amateur eye it looks genuine.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The dealer could be asked if it sticks to a magnet...or if it could be sent to a TPG to get authenticated. This one I'm cautiously optimistic on being genuine.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, guys! As I said I am not looking to buy it--I am just trying to "train my eyes." I am eager to learn how to differentiate fakes from genuine ones of this color and cleanness. I would never make a real accusation without feeling like I have a strong leg to stand on, and I would never make one without asking the right questions first. I really appreciate your opinions and time on this forum.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it's a genuine, late die state of B-8. It's got all the appropriate die markers and die cracks for that die marriage. The obverse has a cleaned appearance, which might be why it sort of has a fake look to it.
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Pillar of the Community
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If it is genuine, why is it not slabbed? For the price the seller is asking ($2K+), the extra cost to have it graded is a rounding error.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Some coin and paper money dealers (especially old-timers) just don't believe in slabs.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Some coin and paper money dealers (especially old-timers) just don't believe in slabs. If $(coin) > $500, then no slab = no sale (for me).
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Pillar of the Community
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There are still lots of high-priced coins out there that aren't slabbed. Perhaps it was once slabbed as a details coin for cleaning, and the owner preferred it raw. Or maybe it was in a type album. But I agree that not having it graded and authenticated may limit the buyer pool.
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Pillar of the Community
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This amateur says fake, JMHO.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Please be more specific about your conclusion. 
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Pillar of the Community
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I've seen mostly fakes on here, and again this looks to be a fake, JMHO.
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Late to the party here and no opinion on the authenticity of the coin in question. That said - definite opinion on the ebay seller hsturn - run away from his/her auctions as hsturn his personally proven to me to be a seller of doctored/cleaned authentic coins. I shudder to recall the days when I was a newbie on classic commemorate coins - 15 years ago - and naively purchased several hstrun coins based on the ebay photos - all proved to be PCGS 'details genuine cleaned'. I can't believe the seller is still active and all those positive ebay reviews. As they say ... buyer beware. Coming from hsturn there is a nefarious reason this otherwise valuable coin is not TPG certified.
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Edited by nickelsearcher 01/26/2021 8:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin appears to be a regular date, 7/6 stars that has die cracks that match the variety in LIBERTY and STATES. The example appears to be genuine. The obverse color and toning is similar to a Chinese fake, but it could be photos.
Edited by Slider23 01/27/2021 4:41 pm
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