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2003 Illinois State Quarter Machine Doubling? Please Confirm

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Good afternoon everyone!

Found this quarter in some pocket change and my first thought was split plating doubling like I've seen on a million pennies. But then I googled it and discovered that split plating is limited to copper plated zinc pennies. So my next thought was Machine Doubling, but the doubling doesn't appear flat or shelf like, it is rounded towards the middle of each individual line. I still think it is Machine Doubling, but I would like to have that confirmed if possible. I see said doubling on the reverse only, on the 1818, the top of Lincolns head and the sides of the state outline (only on the top half of the coin), the farm to the left of Lincoln, and in Land Of Lincoln. Thanks!


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 Posted 02/05/2021  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking Die Deterioration. Others will weigh-in.
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Just because I don't understand and I'm hoping you can help me figure it out, how could it be Die Deterioration if they only used this reverse for 1 year? I was under the impression that Die Deterioration occurred over a period of years, but I am so green to the hobby that it is likely that I'm mistaken.
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 Posted 02/05/2021  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dies in high-speed minting processes take a beating, doesn't matter if it's one year. Consider that 225,800,000 2003P quarters were minted. Yikes!
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02/05/2021 12:43 pm
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Also please note I'm not resisting your judgement of thisncoin, I am just trying to comprehend because I am thirsty for the knowledge lol
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That makes perfect sense. I hadn't considered the volume of coins these dies put out. Thank you for the insight!
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 Posted 02/05/2021  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct. Die Deterioration Doubling. Note all the affected areas are in the direction of the closest rim.
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No worries! Onward!
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While I think people here are happy to answer as many of these as you have, you might find it easier to familiarize yourself with how doubled dies present on modern (single squeeze hubbing era 1997-present) coins. Usually doubling will either be at the center of the design or else will present in extra thickness/smearing of the devices. Take a look at some examples on wexler's or VV and you will see that the same areas of the coins are always the ones that get doubled.
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I appreciate the tip Samcoin, but I'm already doing that. I am just also trying to learn to recognize these other types of issues on coins. I'm not just looking for value, I enjoy the collection aspect of it and knowing these things is helpful to me.
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