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1859 Indian Head Cent You Vs PCGS

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Well this was NOT a purchase I had really "planned" on. I was actually about ready to pull the trigger on a different coin when I saw this pop up. I paid greysheet retail for it, so a bit "high" but 1859 Indians are nearly impossible to find with luster like this, a strike like this and as spot free as this. Finding one with all 3 I thought was gonna be impossible since generally they're carbon spotted to next week.

This is also very important since this finishes my small cents type set! Who would have thought 2 denominations in a week?! Anyway, I'm glad to finally have tracked this down. In an old PCGS Gen 1.2 holder.


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 Posted 02/05/2021  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Conservatively MS 64. Those two defects in front of the bust keep it there for me. Others may well disagree.
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Nice example! I'll say MS64 as well.
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I'm at MS63 very nice the strike is just a touch soft around the diamonds to get this one any higher. Not too many carbon spots either which is getting harder to find coins without them. Nice coin.
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Maybe I am too conservative, maybe not.

Very nice coin. I like 'it but I will put to 60+. Reason?: the edges, background and the date.

What your opinion. Soon I can I will post a certified 64.
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Reason?: the edges, background and the date.


Huh?
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MS-63
Nice pick up...Congrats on finishing up your small cents set!
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MS63+
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I'll go out on a limb and say MS-65
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Well I'm seeing some softness obverse and reverse , but real nice eye appeal . Virtually spot free ,not too happy with the reverse edges a little ragged and bottom of bow not complete .I don't think you would spend top dollar for an AU-58 so I'm going to say MS-63+
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some strike weakness on both sides. fields looks good. just based on the photos presented MS64 but I think its right in the 65 range overall and probably looks better in hand
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I'll say MS-64, shot 65.
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I say MS-64
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Very nice and lustrous IHC you've got, Grape.
I am looking for a 1859 IHC myself, but noticed that many (most?) of these cents show no luster at all even in Mint State. Not sure why. Is that a property of the copper-nickel alloy?
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Hi Ed,

No, it's not a property of the alloy per say. Many copper nickel indians from 1860-1864 show great luster, however I believe it has to do with initial storage way back when, though I have no evidence to back that up. Don't give up though, it took around a year to find this one but it's really luck of the draw if you find a nice one available.
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