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Cool 1978 P Liberty Three-Tiered Feature (Better?)

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 Posted 02/16/2021  12:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Algot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The ONLY reason I"m posting this is because I think this is such a cool three tiered "feature" on LIBERTY. Is that better?

Does it make the "feature" now cool?


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02/16/2021 1:51 pm
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 Posted 02/16/2021  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Business strike coins are only struck once. On the bottoms of Liberty is Machine Doubling. Note the 'B', you can see what your looking as is a flattened area on the devices. This is not a doubled die. On an example on a close that year coin I posted an example of a normal coin and a doubled die. Note the doubling is on the bottom areas of the devices:
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Note the normal size of the devices are large, but this is a large cent. But note the lower image. Do you see that the spread is seen on the bottom of the 'L'? It is not just that one device, but note all of the devices are wider not only one the bottoms, but note the 'B' center of the device? Not they are smaller, not larger because all those devices are enlarged.
Back to your image. The devices are the same size as the normal devices on the top image I posted. So the affected areas on your coin are incuse, on a doubled die, the affected areas are raised, not reduced in size. That is what I'm seeing on your coin.
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 Posted 02/16/2021  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Algot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Forgive me for using the wrong terminology. I know it's MD. I never said, or implied it was a doubled die. I never said, or implied that it was Machine Doubling. All I said that this area was triple struck...which the feature confirms. How that contact took place wasn't even entered into the conversation by me.

However, there is a process in which pressure is applied to this area multiple times in order to produce such an event and result. If there were no vibrations throughout the process, there would be no other contact points which would produce such a feature.

Forgive me for using the word strike. Would you have preferred hit, contacted, vibrated, or banged? I changed the wording, so does than now make it look cool?

Guys, lighten up. This hobby is supposed to be fun.

Not everyone who posts pictures wants it to be diagnosed. Not every parade needs to be rained out.

All I said was I posted this because I thought it was cool. Forgive me for enjoying this hobby. I thought other might enjoy my contributions, too. It seems I was wrong.

Being in this hobby many years, I cringe even posting anything on this site because I know that there are some regulars, pillars, bedrock, and/or "experts" who will not hesitate to shoot down everything I, or others say or post. It's like some on here take pleasure letting everyone know that they have the double dies and you don't.

Yes, there is a wealth of information on this site, but my opinion is that it should be shared for fun, not to beat down and run away every newby who is jazzed because they found some new, though misdiagnosed, image on a coin.

You guys even had some contributor apologize to you for something he didn't do just because one of your "experts" felt the need to put him into his place. He felt that because of the response he received that he somehow offended the respondent...Even thought the contributor, himself, said he was a newby.

You guys don't make this hobby fun. I have the history to know what I'm doing and to know that everyone has an opinion, or agenda, but in the short time I've been interacting on this site, some of your guys make a special effort to crush the enthusiasm of those who come on here hoping to have found something to reinforce their thrill of the hobby...even if it isn't what they think it is.

I know a lamination/planchet error. I know a double die versus maching doubling. I know a die chip. I know a die crack. I know a VAM (I've discovered many of them). I know a clip. I know a collar clash, or any clash. However, I would venture to say that if this site were my first exposure to this hobby, I wouldn't have given it a second look.

I know that you'll say if I don't like it, then leave. So, that's what I'm doing.
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02/16/2021 1:54 pm
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Quote:
I know that you'll say if I don't like it, then leave
You must be thinking about a different forum.
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The point is its not a triple strike. If you were sharing it as Machine Doubling then you would get a response for that. Theres nothing either of us said to have you spaz out.
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Guys, lighten up. This hobby is supposed to be fun.


Who needs to lighten up?

All you said was "The ONLY reason I"m posting this is because I think this is such a cool triple strike on LIBERTY."

People very politely replied and told you it was not a "triple strike."

Honestly, I think it's you that needs to lighten up.
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 Posted 02/16/2021  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Algot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I started off in my "spaz out", forgive me for using the "wrong word".

But, call it anything you want to down-play, or discredit it, my response still stands.
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 Posted 02/16/2021  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kloccwork419 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here, have 2
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 Posted 02/16/2021  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Algot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I changed the wording.


Does it look cool, now?
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 Posted 02/16/2021  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
maybe "machine tripling" is the phrase for this one
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Algot,
I opened a topic with a similar tripling on the devices and here is what coop our sites expert said:

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Looks like single classic Machine Doubling. They coins are only (normally struck once and ejected. So this all happened during one strike

And so did with your coin,it all happened in One strike.
And yes, you used the word ( strike ) correctly.
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02/16/2021 2:51 pm
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