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I am new to this coin community forum thing. But I am interested in everyone's opinion on value of a newly discovered and certified 1859 Proof Seated half dime I was curious about, so I sent it in to PCGS to verify my finding. It is a brand new slab that I haven't received back from PCGS as an 1859 H10c PCGS PF61 "Struck Through Obverse" mint error. What do you think it is worth? I know mint errors are extremely rare on proof coins because of their strenuous minting process. But what about an old 1859 proof mint error? The PCGS #E4438. The certification is #41239520. *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***Edited by Wow Coins Now 02/20/2021 8:31 pm
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Pics or a link, please.  to the CCF!
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Can we see some pictures? The number you gave is for the type, not your specific coin.
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 to CF!! Would love to see some 
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One time I discovered a DDO on a Twenty Cent coin. I asked why it hadn't been listed? I got the response, who collects them?   That seemed like a strange response?  I don't own the coin, but spotted it looking through images. CoopHome: Where to look for doubled dies on the Seated coins series?
Edited by coop 02/20/2021 8:32 pm
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That also. But seeing it was a surprise. You see this type of doubling on all of the Seated Liberty coins. So look for it on a one close to you.   
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That is some remarkable doubling on "LIBERTY", good eye Coop. Interesting info GrapeCollects, the fact that there's only 20 known makes variety listing unnecessary? I guess if they all have the doubling it makes sense which is likely the case?
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As soon as I get the pics from PCGS, I will add them immediately. The PCGS certification is Cert #41239520
Edited by Wow Coins Now 02/20/2021 8:33 pm
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 to the CCF I would prefer to get back to the new member question, and beloved member coop can start any new thread that they prefer to discuss DDO coins. @ Won Coins Now - we need photos to help you. Post them when you can.
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Sounds like an interesting coin. We'll definitely need to see pictures before we can give an opinion. Good that you got photos taken by PCGS, looking forward to seeing them. And  to CCF!
Edited by Zurie 02/20/2021 11:05 pm
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In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Proofs at the time were individually hand-fed into the press, and individually inspected to ensure essentially perfect quality. I am dubious that with such a process a "struck through" or similar error could occur. Perhaps the coin in question is a counterfeit good enough to fool PCGS? I have recently seen a couple of counterfeits of relatively rare varieties that fooled the specialists. I could only tell they were counterfeits due to the surface finish being a bit "off", and by doing a photographic overlay to see that the variety features didn't quite all line up. Amazing quality. And they were slabbed, proving the TPGs can miss a counterfeit if they are not looking close enough. That said, you'd expect something as unusual as a struck-through proof coin to be extremely well-vetted.
Edited by rmpsrpms 02/23/2021 09:51 am
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Quote:One time I discovered a DDO on a Twenty Cent coin. I asked why it hadn't been listed? I got the response, who collects them? All of the 1876 CC 20 cent are from the same die and it has been known as a DDO for ages. And since they are ALL doubled dies, why list it? The image that states the 1856 - 1866 were variety 1 with the drapery is not a type 1 and is showing a strong die clash of the shield on the reverse. As for the OP coin, yes it would be rare, but it is a white elephant and I would expect the value to be maybe 20% less than one without the error. Someone looking for a proof doesn't want one that is flawed, and an error collector looking for a strikethrough doesn't need a proof. So it is rare, it is interesting, it is a novelty, but it doesn't have a collector base. The one thing it does have going for it is it is a one year type, but not a type that many people pay attention to. The stars are different on this years coin than on any of the other years.
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The images are on the cert lookup. 
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