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Help Grading An 1860 One Penny

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 Posted 03/20/2021  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LCA(LCGS) couldn't grade chalk. They are way to harsh. What I find hard to believe is how can a coin graded VF50 still have full cartwheel mint bloom because to me that is impossible and is more a case of a worn die than wear on the coin The coin featured at the auction is GF still shows nearly all hair detail with very prominent curls at the nape of the neck . Reverse D is always questionable often has worn die specimens where the dress is completely devoid of any identifying marks and almost always the shield is weakly struck. Incidentally Paddy was this listed as N/sidewaysN or Z (another classification that is impossible for obvious reasons) Not much between either coins plus photography only tells part of a story Bold fine for me :)
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 Posted 03/25/2021  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add molydeii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hogarth, that is what I like about British / adjectival grading system compared to the American / numeral system. It leaves some room to discuss and also reflects what each adjective means for each grader. Looking at the OP's coin, I can see the Trident, fingers of Britannia and the ship seems slightby in better detail than London Coins' Fine graded coin. But that is just me thinking and I am nothing close to an expert in British coins, I just collect them. To me OP's coin, conditionwise, is just a tad better than London Coins graded penny. (gF or aVF compaed to F).But that is just my opinion.
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 Posted 07/12/2021  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NZStamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it worth blocking a 1860? I just want to block something.
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 Posted 07/12/2021  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add saxon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would grade it VG to Fine due to the historical cleaning.
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 Posted 07/12/2021  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NZStamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone got all 17 varieties or even half?
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 Posted 07/16/2021  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NZStamaps what do you mean by block?
And there are more than 17 varieties - at least 24 but likely more.
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