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Is This Morgan Dollar 1883 O Legit?

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 Posted 03/18/2021  08:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add krun4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys,

I am starting to lose my mind here. I have tested this coin using several methods and it seems like it pass them all.It passes the sound and rare earth magnet tests. However if you inspect the pictures it seems like the coin is worn on specific places more than the others. Please share your opinion.

It has the following dimensions:
Diam.: 37.84mm
Thick.: 2.64mm
Gr. 26.75gr
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 Posted 03/18/2021  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks pretty much like a normal EF coin to me.



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 Posted 03/18/2021  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me. It's a 1884, not a 1883 as listed in the title, but I don't see anything to cause doubt about its authenticity. With almost 10,000,000 minted in New Orleans in 1884 I wouldn't think it would be a counterfeit, but it's possible.
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With almost 10,000,000 minted in New Orleans in 1884 I wouldn't think it would be a counterfeit


EVERY year and mint mark Morgan dollar has been counterfeited, without exception.

Here's a fake 1884-O from my archives.
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regarding krun4's coin
I don't like the shape of the date digits
I don't like the flat gray color of the coin
I don't like the shallowly struck stars on either side of the date

Chances of this being a genuine coin 10%, in my opinion.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add krun4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your responses!

Can someone suggest a way to test it with absolute certainty?
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 Posted 03/18/2021  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add That Coin Dude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
try putting ice on it. if it is silver, the ice will melt. or balance it on your finger an then tap it with another coin, if it is silver, it willhave a nice, low ting sound.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another good way I suppose to test it is to try to match this specimen to the known vams on vamworld.com. It would be genuine if a known VAM matches yours. I think it would be kinda hard for a counterfeiter to fake any of the known vams to me.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  11:48 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has that dull washed out look ,
Me thinks a Chinese mint issue!
Questionable authenticity.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can compare the thickness across the rim to another known authentic example. Chinese counterfeits tend to be thicker to achieve the correct weight when not made from 90/10 silver.

Beyond that, your example looks like a far date position with an oval O/O mint mark. Can you post an enlarged cropped image of the mint mark?

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 Posted 03/18/2021  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add suipakpaikungfu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your local coin or bullion dealer should have a tester for silver/gold coins.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add krun4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I hit it with other silver coin it has really high and prolong silver pitch sound. I will try the ice test as well. Unfortunately I don't have a XRF. It really looks quite odd as a coin, but even the rare earth magnet behaves like it is sliding on silver.
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Thank you dave700x, I am attaching the requested photo.
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It looks like you have a VAM-7 example.http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...1884-O_VAM-7

edit to add - Your second larger full obverse image clearly shows the die clash mark above the phrygian cap as well.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add krun4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apologies for the newbie question, but can counterfits have VAM die?
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I have yet to see a counterfeit that matches a legitimate VAM listing. Your coin is authentic in my opinion.
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