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1918 LWC / Struck-Through? Dull Guillotine?

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 Posted 03/20/2021  10:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kcm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This 'un's seen a bit of circulation, but, to this novice it exhibits some signs of difficult birthing. The limited damage to the bust device mystifies. I suffer a bit from Dr. Watson Syndrome just now, all you Sherlock's.

I experimented with adding images of using a porcupine quill as a probe in case my images fail to convey the incuse nature of the wound. Does anyone think the images are worth my while?

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 Posted 03/20/2021  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scuba1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll admit that this is definitely an odd, but neat one. I'm no expert but in my opinion I don't see this at being PMD for this observation. Linc's neck is still well defined and if it took a major hit to that area, which does look like a hit from another coin to me, then his neck details would have been smashed as well but that's not the case as it appears........ just my obvservation. Wait til the experts chime in but it looks like "something" is up with this one.
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 Posted 03/20/2021  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This could be a struck through but with the length of the anomaly running parallel to how the planchet was rolled, I would call it a well worn lamination
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 Posted 03/20/2021  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting lamination. Was the missing piece there when the coin was struck then fell off later? How else would Lincoln's neck be formed so well in the incused area?

Definitely a keeper.
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 Posted 03/20/2021  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And, it appears there some 'woody' going on, best seen on the reverse.
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 Posted 03/20/2021  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool coin.
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1918-LWC-/-Struck-Through?-Dull-Guillotine?
It is a struck through. Not affect on the reverse areas. (see clash overlay to see where the opposite devices would be on this error) Nothing showing there. So it is an error coin.
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It appears to be a foreign object that adhered to the die before striking. possibly a sliver of wood from the box/crate the dies were stored in, the dies were slathered in grease when not in use as they tend to begin to rust quickly (within hours sometimes) if not covered in grease. The piece of wood has obviously either fallen out or been picked out by someone.

An another note this could also be a planchet flaw, or an error/defect in the raw blank of copper sheet rolled out. Since there is still a weak impression of Lincoln's neck I tend to think it's more likely a planchet flaw, where the metal still flowed under pressure during the striking, rather than being stopped by a foreign object imbedded or in the way.
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Nice error, whichever error it turns out to be. Looks like Abe is hula hooping on the neck, ha!
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Just thinking of that messes with my headache. LOL
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possibly a sliver of wood from the box


If it was wood stuck to the planchet, how do you explain that the neck is pressed in just fine (but below the surface of the rest of the coin). Wouldn't it just be flat across the affected area?

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An another note this could also be a planchet flaw, or an error/defect in the raw blank of copper sheet rolled out. Since there is still a weak impression of Lincoln's neck I tend to think it's more likely a planchet flaw, where the metal still flowed under pressure during the striking, rather than being stopped by a foreign object imbedded or in the way.


Ah! Yes that is one I can agree with. You have explained in better than me. (I'm not long winded, I guess)
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stoneman227 - that is so cool a detached lamination and you have both pieces? Now that's a rare error.
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