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what do you think happened here?   |
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The pictures are a little dark and hard to see but it looks like it was buried and corroded to me.
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Environmental Damage, corrosion
Alan
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Kinda looks like someone used acid on it....
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Kinda looks like someone used acid on it.... That's the first thing I thought of, as well. |
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This is not corrosion. It's exposure to chemicals possibly acid of some kind.
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It's very damaged. Exactly what caused it...doesn't really matter to me.
I'll explain.
When I was younger I studied errors and varieties. All the stuff that doesn't fit into errors and varieties is damage. Damage is damage, never cared what KIND of truck ran it over...doesn't matter.
In general, there's a LOT of attention given to things here that aren't errors, because that's what people are finding. Reason for that - errors really are scarce, and finding them in change is very unlikely. 99.9% of what people are finding is damage of one sort or another. So if it's damage, does it really matter what caused it?
I'm not trying to be crass or difficult here - I'm just giving a little kind reality check.
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coopercoins,im new at coin collecting and dont really know the difference betweem errors and damage thats why I post these coins.{to learn}ive read some of your post and think you are very smart in this subject.with that being said [its very damaged}would have been enough.if you have to degrade someones post than why reply but since that what you do for a living it must be ok to make a roofer that found an odd looking coin feel like an iddiot for asking a question.no need to reply I'm deleting my account. merry christmas to all
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.........Waiting for a response from "CooperCoins"  |
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coppercoins, you need to adjust your medication. You've gotten rather caustic lately.
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I'm not coming to Charles defense here, I'm sure he can do that all on his own. But I for one am grateful he puts his effort on this site to help. Knowledge is priceless and Charles offers that here daily. No buttering it up or sugar to sweeten things, just a concise and precise answers. I like it that way. coppercoins.com has been unbeatable for information. Keep it Charles, constructive criticism has never hurt anyone.
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im new at coin collecting and don't really know the difference between errors and damage Being new at collecting doesn't have much to do with it if you use simple common sense. Coins that appear to have gross damage(like the one posted) will more than likely be damaged while errors will not usually look like damage(there are a few exceptions to this), they appear to have flaws in the manufacturing process itself. Errors tend to be very rare so if you are finding supposed "errors" by the dozen, then you can logically conclude that they are not errors at all, just damaged coins. Damage is damage no matter what you try and make of it and the method of damage is largely irrelevant because there is almost an infinite number of ways to damage a coin. Errors are caused by specific, defined processes that have been documented- there is no guess work with errors. However, most do not understand those specific processes because they have not taken the time to learn the minting process itself. I could show those pictures to 100 novices who know nothing about coins and I bet that 3/4 of them would say the coin is damaged because of the obviousness of it. If I were to show that same 100 people a picture of a broadstruck coin, you might get many answers but I bet none of them would say it is damaged. CC(and others) is trying to provide constructive criticism which is something that everyone needs from time to time, but you seem unwilling to receive said constructive criticism and instead view it as a slam on you- which it is not. You are not hurting anyone else by abandoning your account, you are only hurting yourself and your education/accumulation of knowledge. Numismatics is not something you can pick up in an afternoon. To excel at it requires a bit of scholarly work from time to time and continually educating yourself. It is a very technical hobby with a very specific lexicon and can be confusing and frustrating unless you immerse yourself in it. A coin collector is only as good as his/her reference library. Probably 3/4 of my knowledge has come from books in my reference set and in most cases, that is the only way to learn some of that stuff because it is just not widely disseminated. If you are interested in learning more about errors and the minting process in general, I would recommend the purchase of The Official Price Guide to Mint Errors by Alan Herbert. Do not let the title fool you- it is more of an encyclopedia of errors and die varieties(in general, not coin specific) with explanations on how they are created. Quote:
coppercoins, you need to adjust your medication. You've gotten rather caustic lately drive-by slams are rather rude there coinseeker  Edited by biokemist6
12/26/2008 10:01 pm
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KNOWLEDGE is a wonderful thing, no one could ever take away from you, that being said,knowing how to express such is a different subject, I would think some would agree AGAIN, "Sometimes it's not what you say,it's how you say it".I have been not as active as I usually am lately here on this site.I too believe that certain people here give of them selves and their expertise and looking through the bs I too am grateful for the contributions from these people. I have however been" checking in "POSTING A COMMENT OR TWO, once in a while and see that some things are never going to change and for the most part this is a good thing.I enjoy knowing I have a place that I consider a second "family " to go to for knowledge and "expert opinions" when needed, however I see that the TONE sometimes is IMHO, NOT AS CARING,or courteous and kind, as I thought it has been prior.I am NOT an expert or an author and this is not a bad thing, this is why I seek answers to questions and opinions on subjects that I enjoy being involved in, actually I love it"COLLECTING COINS",. ALSO DIE VARIETIES AND DBL'D DIES AND SUCH IS JUST ONE VERY IMPORTANT SECTION IN THE COLLECTORS WORLD OF COINS, AND SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I ask the questions I do because I am not sure, or do not have the literature to consult at the time I ask.I also feel that others act the same way in that this is a COIN COLLECTING FORUM, where else should the members like myself seek opinions, if not here.I also see that there is a sense of consideration or really a lack there of in the statements some new and some not new members receive from certain members that seems to be excepted, that is a great thing about AMERICA, speak your peace freely and openly, however there are many bright people in this world, who do not speak down by making a statement, have people remove themselves from this forum, and justify this behavior as being expert advice. I will not be leaving just yet, however if this is to become a place to be treated as such, why would anyone put up with the disregard of people who, while they are bright, and experienced, simply exhibit poor people communication skills with their gift of talent, and expertise in this forum.... PS: I would appreciate not having the "unkind, rude, uncalled for remarks"!!JUST MY EQUAL OPINION, BE WELL, MIKE |
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biokemist, hello, I could only say to you do you really think some one as new as this person, deserves all these negative remarks.I do not see this in any way helpful to make remarks and comparisons when the poster was "looking" for assistance and help to begin with. I know you are a very experienced person in the coin collecting world, as such I would think you would realize that "we" are all not as experienced as you and others, hence, the term "newbie"for him. I am amazed at the "sheep" like comments that follow some posts, come on give a person a break!PS; think about the term Rude! Is that not why this is all being said! BE WELL, MIKE... Edited by Morgans Dad
12/24/2008 4:35 pm
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Umm, wow- how you could construe what I posted as being even remotely close to rude is beyond me...  |
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Posted 12/23/2008 7:29 pm
