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I've seen "High Extra Leaf" & "Low Extra Leaf" before but never a "Split Leaf" - care to point out in your pictures what you are seeing?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've heard through the years, that a mint worker altered these dies and made them a new variety. That's the word on the street. I've never checked to see if these were done on the fresh dies, or on the dies in a later die state. (like in a polishing room)   ADDED: But these were not hub doubled examples, these were altered die examples, that were considered as doubled dies. (But actually would not be hub doubling.) The real DDO is in the central areas. These were probably altered in the die shop as I thought about it, they had the tools, and the scopes, to see to alter these dies. So that would not make them a hub doubled example. CoopHome: On the 2004-D Wisconsin States quarters, are the leaf varieties doubled dies? Edited by coop
04/02/2021 9:28 pm
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The only split leaf in my images....  I think this is a new variant. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Well if that side is facing the rim, it might be die wear. But these were not hub doubled examples, these were altered die examples, that were considered as doubled dies. (But actually could be hub doubling.) The real DDO is in the central areas. These were probably altered in the die shop as I thought about it, they had the tools, and the scopes, to see to alter these dies. |
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Its the split leaf with no lower extra leaf...
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I've heard through the years, that a mint worker altered these dies and made them a new variety. Thanks for posting that information Coop - never heard about that before. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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well consider where the location for DDO's are on these dies. They are single squeeze dies. The hub doubling would be on the ear and the motto area. There is no way they could be hub doubled to cause this. |
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So whats the nomenclature? WHat type/error would I refer to it as until otherwise corrected?
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A die chip? Interesting that the "Extra Low Leaf" example seems to have a blob near the same location as yours.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks more like a fading die scratch. In the open fields a die scratch will go away fast. But next to a device they last longer. Inside of the device, they last the longest.
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Die scratch? It looks exactly like a lower leaf die minus the lower leaf....please tell me I'm not the only person who sees this
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My opinion on the 2004D extra leaf wisconsin falls in line with the going theory. https://www.numismaticnews.net/arch...uarter-errorJust in my speculation, it's a detached rim burr that caused a die dent in both instances before falling out. it was investigated, it wasn't intentional and it didn't happen from die polishing in both cases, it was random die damage that appeared during production. the exact item that caused the die dent, is still up to speculation, but some sort of metal shaving/burr is the most likely culprit. However I totally can understand the conspiracy theories, it's almost perfect placement, and both coins deserve their moniker. |
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Well the tempered steel on the dies would not allow a soften piece of a rim bur to alter two different dies slightly differently. Dies that struck both examples in the same run. I don't believe that happened.
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