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Valued Member
United States
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Valued Member
 United States
277 Posts |
FYI, my parents owned a jewelry shop while growing up and they always told me that fake silver tends to develop a reddish patina.
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Pillar of the Community
Singapore
631 Posts |
Some of the surfaces also have a bubbly, blurry and coarse appearance to them, personally I would avoid.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
That what my 'gut' feeling is as well, and for the same reasons.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
599 Posts |
Avoid.
Watch your top knot
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Valued Member
Canada
54 Posts |
Stamps look fake to me, according to my gut. The first linked auction says " BRITISH INDIA ,1840 SILVER COINS ,BRITISH INFLUENCE, COUNTER STAMP. COINS IS 100% ORIGINAL, UNKNOWN DATE AND ORIGINALITY OF THE COUNTER MARK FANTASY ISSUE.".
So ya, even the seller is pretty clear this is a faked coin. I'm not convinced the original coin is genuine either since they all look the same age, but I'm not an expert on coins of this type.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
It is possible that the counterstamps are authentic, but the coin is not.
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Valued Member
United States
277 Posts |
I'd say the counterstamps are based on actual historical stamps, but they were made in a modern factory/lab. I don't think the original pieces have the circular border that's seen on many of these pieces. The first, fourth, and fifth photos are what I am talking about. I don't know for certain, and this is just coming off the top of my head, but authentic pieces shouldn't have that circular border, right? The border would tell me that all these stamps were made in the same location with the same equipment. I think these stamps were originally made regionally, and so there wouldn't/shouldn't be too much continuity between all of them.
Any experts in this forum on the topic?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with the comments above that the coins are likely genuine but the "stamps" which makes them valuable as numismatic items are Forgeries. This is a classic fraud perpetrated by Numismatic Forgers in various locations. The host coins are usually worn to 'non-collectable" standards (melt coins) and the stamps are either fantasies or copies of pictures from old catalogs. There are cases where on ebay the Forgers use a booklet that they produce to authenticate these frauds as very valuable. Run away - run very fast and do not look back. These are bogus. The makers of these "commemorative issues" do their work in countries that do not have laws covering this type of forgery. They wholesale the crap to ebay shills who sell for them from a myriad of locations. They are supported at least in part bu organized crime. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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There has been a glut of these forgeries on ebay recently. They seem to come from a small number of sellers and are usually posted in groups. All are clearly fake - including some which are fantasy counter stamps that never existed. |
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Australia
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I do not believe the host coins are genuine as well as the counterstamp. Very likely to be base metals.
It's just too many fakes these days.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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