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1967 Half Dollar Struck On A 25 Cent Stock

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So I have this 1967 half dollar that is much thinner than the rest of my half dollars. It is 40% silver only weighing 10.7. I saw somewhere that this could possibly mean it was struck on a 25 cent stock. Can anyone verify this info to be true. In your opinion is my 1967 half dollar possibly struck on the wrong planchet?

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 Posted 04/17/2021  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Suggest posting a photo of the half in question immediately next to a quarter. Thanks.
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Yes, comparing it to a quarter would be helpful.
I doubt it's struck on quarter stock. Quarters of this period were copper-nickel clad, but this is clearly the silver-clad composition that was only used for half dollars (except the 40% bicentennial coins). This one may just be rolled a bit thin, but make sure to calibrate your scale and compare it to other coins to make sure you're getting an accurate reading.

It's also worth noting that the apparent difference in thickness in the picture is a bit misleading since the '76 is well struck with full rims.
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 Posted 04/17/2021  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok hmm, the 1967 Quarter planchets weighed about 5.7g, so it can't be that. Is a magnet attracted to it?
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 Posted 04/17/2021  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cecilia Sowinski to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess my wording was wrong. So the half dollar is the same size as the regular half dollars except for it is much thinner. From my understanding, they used long metal stocks, and some half dollars were printed onto the 25 cent stock. So it's technically not a wrong planchet error. That's just my understanding of it. I may be misunderstanding something.
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No its not attracted to a magnet
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what do you mean by full rims? Sorry still learning as I go along thanks for the help
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 Posted 04/17/2021  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cecilia Sowinski to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was watching this video and about 13:45 into it, this 50 cent on a 25 cent stock is talked about.
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I guess my wording was wrong. So the half dollar is the same size as the regular half dollars except for it is much thinner. From my understanding, they used long metal stocks, and some half dollars were printed onto the 25 cent stock. So it's technically not a wrong planchet error. That's just my understanding of it. I may be misunderstanding something.

That's correct, and I figured that's what you meant. I still don't think it's possible, though, since this alloy wasn't used for any other coins.

According to my calculations, a clad half dollar should be about 25.7% thicker than a clad quarter. If a half dollar were struck on clad quarter stock, the standard weight would be about 9.02 g.
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Diameter appears correct for a half dollar and weight appears not that far off. I don't see how it could be a quarter planchet.
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On the 1970-D Quarters there were an issue with Quarters on Dime stock.
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Somebody is making that a habit there? Wrong stock issues.

Note Mike Diamonds note on this subject:
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=wrong+stock
Read the whole article. Mentions also nickels on a clad?

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This 1971-D quarter was struck off-center on a quarter-sized silver-clad planchet with a large straight clip. According to NGC, it weighs 2.4 grams. The composition is said by NGC to be 80% silver and 20% copper. It is assumed that this is just a measurement of the surface composition. This ratio of metal is found only in the clad layers of half dollars minted between 1965 and 1970. However it also appears in the clad layers of half dollar-size Panama 1/2 balboas produced by the San Francisco Mint between 1967 and 1975.

The planchet is indeed silver-clad, with clad layers composed of 80% silver and 20% copper. A darker core is visible which is presumably composed of 79% copper and 21% silver. As in typical silver-clad half dollars, the exposed core appears gray.

The planchet upon which this coin is struck is no thicker than a quarter; therefore this is not simply obsolete half dollar stock. It would appear that a coil of silver-clad strip intended for 1970-D half dollars was mistakenly rolled to quarter thickness, labeled quarter stock, and then stored away with normal copper-nickel clad quarter strip. Then, in 1971, the off-metal strip was retrieved from storage, sent through a blanking press punching out quarter blanks, and the rest is history. The presence of the straight clip indicates that this planchet is probably derived from the leading end of the strip. Since this is a unique specimen, I suspect someone quickly realized the mistake and stopped the blanking press before the strip could progress very far.

While it's possible that contemporarily 1/2 balboa strip was reduced to quarter dollar thickness, I view this as less likely since the 1/2 balboa coins were struck in San Francisco and because this coin was struck only one year after cessation of silver-clad half dollar production. In 1970, only the Denver Mint was producing half dollars, and these were restricted to mint sets.

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Awesome thank you all for the information. There's a lot here I did not know. Little by little I'm coming along with everyone's help.

I appreciate all the help

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Cecilia, one girl to another, those YouTube videos will mess with your mind, making you see big bucks everywhere. Stay here for the best education. -Leslie
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I was watching this video


Ah yes... we are... familiar... to say the least with this guy.

Leslie sums it up nicely, though I'm not a girl, so I can't totally match up with her statement.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1967 half dollar was struck on a planchet derived from half dollar stock that was rolled a bit too thin.
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Thanks Mike D!
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