1939 P- Lincoln Wheat Cent / LWC Struck Through Debris And Lamination.

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VestigeWolf Pillar of the Community United States 549 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 11:00 am I am learning a great deal but need help verifying the terms. Would this be considered a struck through debris and lamination error cent? Thank you. Edited by VestigeWolf 04/21/2021 11:03 am Report this Post to the Staff

That Coin Dude Pillar of the Community United States 1427 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 11:02 am Just a LAM IMO. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 11:29 am Everything but the lams looks like damage to me. Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21589 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 11:29 am Just a lamination issue, not a struck through Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19126 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 11:37 am None-the-less, nice example of a lamination issue. Report this Post to the Staff
VestigeWolf Pillar of the Community United States 549 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 11:48 am If it is not a struck through, what are all the raised pieces of copper debris? Report this Post to the Staff
Greasy Fingers Pillar of the Community United States 7001 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 12:00 pm "raised pieces" are parts of the lam. lifting off the surface Report this Post to the Staff
VestigeWolf Pillar of the Community United States 549 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 12:28 pm http://goccf.com/t/397813 If you look at this post you will understand why I think it is both. Report this Post to the Staff
ABS21 Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 4:54 pm Thank you for posting ...interesting coin for sure. Report this Post to the Staff
Numisma Pillar of the Community United States 4963 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 5:23 pm Strike-throughs are incuse, not raised. I agree that it's just a lamination. Still a cool coin! Report this Post to the Staff
VestigeWolf Pillar of the Community United States 549 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 6:05 pm Has anyone looked at the link. From what Coop said, to my understanding, it is struck through and still attached. Please read the other thread. I don't know, I am confused now. Thank you. Report this Post to the Staff
Numisma Pillar of the Community United States 4963 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 6:42 pm The 1945 in the other thread has small pieces of debris struck into the metal. Notice that they're flush with the surface and are not linear. The lamination on your coin is linear and exists within the coin, not just on the surface. The date is a little harder to tell- I can see how that could be debris, but it seems more likely to me that it's part of the same lamination. The raised bits also seem to be lamination peels; struck-in debris should just fall out rather than fold. I don't know, I could be wrong. Report this Post to the Staff
VestigeWolf Pillar of the Community United States 549 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 7:42 pm Still, what about the missing elements in line with the lamination. Some seem too deep or does lamination peel that way? Or is it also a bad alloy mix? This is just a quandary for me based on what I have learned thus far. I wish I had the coin made right after this one. Or just before. Thank you all for your input. Edited by VestigeWolf 04/21/2021 7:46 pm Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 04/21/2021 11:11 pm Quote: Some seem too deep or does lamination peel that way? Or is it also a bad alloy mix? This is just a quandary for me I agree with the majority. It is a delamination (separation linear of the material). The delamination occur in 80% of the time on the begin of the planchet roll. If the delamination it is very thinly can glue on the roll and then will be a inclusion in the planchet given the effect which it is LAMINATION (union of two parts by pression, heat, glue, etc). The alloy in this case is out of the equation, we can forgot this idea, and I will not discuss here this. You say missing parts, and probably you confound with the cracking planchet. No, this happened at the end of the roll of the planchet and is really uniform because it is a complete structural separation of the crystals. The missing parts is normal in the cases of delam because the force applied on the strike will make this thin delam to crack. You do not must be perplex (quandary). Report this Post to the Staff
VestigeWolf Pillar of the Community United States 549 Posts	Posted 04/22/2021 07:48 am So all the little pieces around the date are part of the lamination issue and not struck through into the metal? http://goccf.com/t/397906 Edited by VestigeWolf 04/22/2021 1:37 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/22/2021 1:44 pm But they struck troughs peel off, they leave leave an incuse mark, just like lamination peel will leave an incuse mark. Not sure which direction the peel is coming off, but through the center is definite. Lamination errors can can peel on one one area of the coin or others. Note this example: The left side peel off first, the center was assisted to come off and the right side, is still in tact. This coin sold for 5 figures. Why? Got me. I guess I found the right buyer. Report this Post to the Staff
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1939 P- LWC Struck Through Debris And Lamination.