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2020 P Nice Die Clash Obverse And Minor Die Clash Reverse With Die Marks?

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 Posted 04/23/2021  11:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Or is it my old buddy PMD?
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 Posted 04/23/2021  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe a DDO also? I can see some areas that may not be MD or Die Derteraition for once lol
I will scope and add pics later
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 Posted 04/23/2021  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bag marks are coin damage. The obverse devices look normal sized. The dual light glare is confusing you. (Single light sources are better for micro photos. A single light produces light and shadows. Two lights removes the shadows)
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 Posted 04/23/2021  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given the photos as posted, I'm not seeing any doubling, nor die clashing. I am seeing some decent sized gashes. Try using a diffused light source if you post new photos--place a sheet of lighter weight white paper or some translucent white plastic between your light source and the coin.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not saying it is.
Just that I noticed some potential areas.. added pics with arrows..
I will scope to verify later..
Pics where taken via smart phone
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 Posted 04/23/2021  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The DDO's so far haven't been monsters, so with the glare it hides what you are seeing.
http://doubleddie.com/2516921.html
Note Wexler's examples for this year.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also thanks for the tips and I will do
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 Posted 04/23/2021  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe bc I took pics with my phone I'm seeing it different. Lighting is a little bright on my end.. I'm seeing legit 2nd impressions.. but doesn't matter untill I scope it..
Driving so please my don't mind my spellings..
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 Posted 04/23/2021  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A die clash would look more like this:
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 Posted 04/23/2021  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@rc, right in front of Abe's eyes, I see two parallel dings. My guess is that you were thinking that this was part of the potential die clash as they are parallel and about the same distance apart as the stripes on the shield from the rev. However, they are in the wrong location to be a die clash as the wide part of the shield matches up with the area in front of Abe's mouth. When I am trying to assess whether a coin has a clash or not, looking at an overlay to see if the devices line up is the most important thing for me.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing even a slight clash in supplied pictures - will wait for your scoped pictures.
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 Posted 04/23/2021  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep..
I used the wrong words.. should have said Die Gouches..
Not sure why I said Clash.. maybe bc several are on the obverse and also mainly bc I'm still green at this..
Sorry about that fellas..
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 Posted 04/23/2021  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was thinking damage was made from die because no scuffing or any other damage that would be a PMD red flag..
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 Posted 04/23/2021  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah ok. That is an easy mistake to make--don't worry about it. We are all learning here. A gouge on the die would show up proud on the coin when struck. At least from these pics, all of the gouges look to be incuse and therefore are damage to the coin.
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 Posted 04/25/2021  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok,
thank you
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