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Gold Dollar Error? Missing Magn. Layer? Improperly Annealed Planchet?

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I got this Thomas Jefferson dollar which looks very similar to a couple of the errors listed in the title. It could also be environmental damage, but the rim isn't really uniform with the rest of the obverse/reverse. Don't want to waste the money sending into NGC just to for it to come back in a body bag.
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 Posted 04/27/2021  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like ED. You can see from the edge that it still has the clad layers, and some of the original color is showing through on the high points.
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It's just really dirty and toned in my opinion.
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 Posted 04/27/2021  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like environmental damage to me, golden dollars are not cladded
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Just a spender.
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Quote:
golden dollars are not cladded


Not true. They're copper clad in manganese brass.
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 Posted 04/27/2021  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you travel to Ecuador, where these coins heavily circulate, you'll see many of the Presidential dollars looking like this. (The U.S. dollar became legal tender in Ecuador in 2000; fractional coins, below $1, are still Ecuadorian.)
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Well that is where they are all going. What they need to do here is to stop making one dollar bills, use the dollar coins, in the tills where where half dollars go, and where they used to put the ones, Put two dollar bills there. Save all that money of making all the dollar bills, and you know they cost a lot more than a dollar to make these. (how much I don't know?) But the dollar coins are lot less to make than the bills. An last a lot longer. But hay? Who listens to me?
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Quote:
Not true. They're copper clad in manganese brass.
Correct.
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Environmental tarnishing/toning/staining. Damage, no error here. Keep searching!
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Halfamind- Thanks for sharing. I didn't know American coins circulated outside the country except in Panama.

Coop- Wouldn't that be nice? I would love to see dollar coins circulate, but I don't think there's any public interest, especially with so many transactions moving away from cash. I'd also be concerned about counterfeiting given how toonies and pound coins have been heavily targeted.
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@coop - yes, Canada did it right, getting rid of the small bills.

@numisma - had a couple of business trips to Ecuador. Loved seeing the Presidential dollars and Sacagawea dollars circulating. Their population is small — about 17 million people — but the U.S. small dollars get a good workout.
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 Posted 04/27/2021  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I should start a new thread, but just wanted to share pix of a typically circulated U.S. small dollar obtained in Ecuador. Maybe good for a low-ball set someday?!
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halfamind, yes, please start a new thread for your coin. Maybe a Mod will help move it for you.
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Very cool, thanks for sharing! I've found a handful that worn here in the states.
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