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Grading By Way Of The Coin Community - What Are The Expectations?

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I'm curious. When people post coins for grading, what do they 'do' with the grades that community members respond with? I imagine some would digest the responses, make a mental note, and move on. Others might meticulously average the grades suggested/determined and write the grade on a 2x2. A few may choose to note/record only the highest grade. A few may haggle over unofficial community grades, as coin community grading is felt to be serious business. Just curious.

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 Posted 05/19/2021  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNWType to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some use it as a step prior to buying something, to see if the grade it appears to be aligns with the price

Some people use it as a validation for a piece they just bought, essentially a check that others agree or not

I think most common is to see just if others agree with a grade on a holder or a grade that the owner feels the coin is. Just as a piece of extra knowledge. I imagine some hold the info and will put it on a 2x2, but I'll bet the majority just read the responses, take mental note, and carry on

I don't usually post my own coins for grading, but I join in the grading quite often, seeing if I align with responses helps improve my grading ability.
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For me, I don't usually ask often for a grading, Mostly only when I'm not sure what grade to put on it. It is incredibly hard to grade proof or high MS coins due to the lack of any wear on them, that and the fact that my Eyesite is not too good anymore. (I already have had 4 surgery's on my eyes to try to clear up my vision.) If I get a grad on a high MS or proof coin, I'll usually take the lowest mark given and log that into my coin data base I'm compiling. I put my trust in the folks here to give honest and polite estimates of coins presented as best they can with the photos given.

edit: I also may post up a coin of questionable history I'm considering on buying. Most times the coin I put up like that has been altered or just fake, which saved me money.
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Generally speaking, when I create a grading thread it's for one of two reasons. Either one, because I'd like confirmation on a purchase, or two, because the coin presents an unusual challenge, or would be an excellent discussion coin and conversation. Something like this coin here: https://goccf.com/t/398207

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All of the above are sound reasons. I know there are many more knowledgeable and experienced collectors here than I and appreciate their opinions.
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As a new collector, I've been reading up my 2 favorite series, looking at ebay/LCS PCGS coins, and watching YouTube to learn how to grade. The only grade my coin post I submitted so far was to test how accurate I was in my assessment of the coin was from people who actually know what they're doing.
It turns out I'm a pro, and possibly the worst photographer of all time.
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I'm with grape on this question, I am perfectly fine in my grading abilities. I'm not out to find out what anyone thinks, I do like the challenge of some the guess what the TPG said in You vs. PCGS/NGC. I also like to put up a challenging coin or two when I run across them, like the 4 Seated half dollars I am looking at acquiring for a client, or the 1831 Capped Bust quarter, none of those I own currently. Many of the coins I post I do own, others I used to own and have sold them off. But with all my posts, I strive to teach a little bit on why, or learn myself from others on what they see on a particular coin series.

I remember member JonBrand posting a bunch of incuse Indian gold coins, that were well photographed and a real challenge to me in grading, I learned a lot from those coin he posted. Some of Germanicvs EAC coinage is a treat to behold and I always look forward to any coin he posts from his extensive and thoughtful EAC collection, GrapeCollects puts up some really nice type coins that can be a challenge, so many great responses from others have taught me things to look for and at, fortcollins super insightful comments on Buffalo nickels comes to mind or condor101's EAC knowledge.

I just think we are lucky to have this place to enjoy these grading challenges together.

Funny I happen to see this in the modern side of grading, an area I don't really frequent often. I find it's awfully difficult to grade high end proof and MS coins from photos, as really well made photos are harder to make of modern coins that show subtle differences from MS68, MS69 and MS70 or proof coins of the similar numerical grades.
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The grading forum particularly helps me sharpen my skills on series I've not had much experience with.
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My main question is often to help determine if the coin has been fiddled with. Old cleanings are hard to detect at times. 99% of the time, I feel confident in my grading and tend to undergrade by a point to be sure.

There are experts on the forum who know particular attributes of a series and can help correct first impressions. Case in point was the Lincoln Cent that was recently posted here:




Not knowing the particulars for this issue, I would have undergraded it significantly.
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I'm with Grape. I like to get confirmation (or dismissal) of the grade I think the coin is at, before purchasing (or not purchasing). Or, to play the "You vs. TPG" game.
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Similar to the others, I often ask for two reasons. Either to check and see if a coin is "worth the price," or because I enjoy putting other coins out there for discussion, to see what others think, and practice my own grading.
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