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 . Give it a bit and members will help. John1  |
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Do you have size and weight for these? The last two pics are pretty dark, too.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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@pan, first welcome to CCF. Second, someone more knowledgeable than I am should confirm, but I'm pretty sure that any potential California Gold with a bear is a fake.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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I have a California Fractional,
but it is a gold plated plated brass fake, probably made for cheap trinket jewelry. Style betrays it.
It lives in my 'black' collection, for my own education.
I admit: I still don't know enough to make a worthwhile opinion with coins pictured. Still learning, but I feel friendlier with the third coin.
I do know that this series has been heavily faked, often jeweler's copies made in good gold.
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The 1852 is .70g The 1853 is .22g The 1871 is .38g Thank you to Keith12!!! I did some research in the last few hours and discovered that what I possess is in fact an 1871 50C Liberty Round 50 Cents, BG-1011. https://coins.ha.com/itm/california...type=NGC1175IF it IS authentic, it is worth about $1,000-$3,000 depending on grade. The other two were found on http://www.calgoldcoin.com and listed as "novelty" items from the US as early as the 1960s and 1970s. However, there were SOME that were made as part of a set called "Coins of the Golden West" in the 1915-1916 era and, being part of a complete set, they fetched $32,000 at Heritage Auctions in Jan 2017. I think I am going to have them all authenticated. The worst that NGC is going to do is send it back ungraded and tell me it is a fake. It is not like I faked it myself and sent it to grade. That would be pointless to waste my time and energy for a few bucks. Edited by pancakez81
05/30/2021 10:18 am
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Agree the one depicting a bear is a fake.
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If the BG-1011 is real, it has a value in the $200 range. It has a lot of wear. Maybe a jewelry or pocket piece, since by 1871 no one spent these. Judging from the photos, it could also be a plated reproduction, with the plating wearing off on the high points Have a jeweler test it before sending it to NGC. https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...g-1011/10840The weights are not very good indicators of authenticity, since these coins were intentionally made underweight, and with low purity gold. I've weighed some of the dollars, and they're 30% under US Mint dollar weight at best (1.1g vs 1.6g). Some of the earliest ones were made with unrefined gold, but by 1871 they were California souvenirs. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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