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Pillar of the Community
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Here one of my nice Canadian half penny tokens. There happen to many varities of this one, I heard..  
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Canada
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United States
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Nice one. Looks like Lees 37, Charlton PE-10-37.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Best to hold coins by the edge and not touch the surfaces.
Watch your top knot
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Netherlands
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Nice token. I see you live close by, maybe we can meet up some time 
Edited by Gebs 06/12/2021 09:13 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Very nice indeed - not at all common at that grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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@nickelguy thank you!
@1960NYGiants , do you have a picture of that catalog? they all seem so similair to me
@echidna, thank you for your comment. Will keep that in mind!
@gebs, stuur me een berichtje , wellicht kunnen we wat regelen om eens af te spreken. Altijd leuk!
@ silver101, many thanks for your reply
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Canada
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@Vince1977, there are about 50 varieties of the PE-10 token, 19 pages in my Charlton catalogue. They can be a challenge to identify. Yours is not a rare one. Not the most common, but fairly common. It is in better condition than mine, and seems to be in at least XF condition.
Edited by oriole 06/12/2021 10:44 am
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@Vince1977 Judge W.A.D. Lees original work was published in 1917 in The American Numismatic Journal. A copy may be available to download from the Newman Numismatic Portal. In 2006, Greg Ingram + Branko Marelic published The Ships Colonies & Commerce Tokens of Colonial Canada. This work provided detail photos of the different die pairs / varieties (approx. 52). Highly recommended for the beginning and advanced collector. In 2019, Chris Faulkner published Imperial Designs - Canada's Ships, Colonies & Commerce Tokens. This book is more than just a catalog. It includes biographies, auction records, and detailed writeups for each variety. This book is a must for the serious collector.  
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you all! This is very helpfull. I will take a look if I can buy one of those books for a decent price.
All best, Vincent
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Valued Member
United States
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This is not Lees 37 but a Lees 45 with the characteristic die crack on the reverse. Lees 37 uses the same reverse die but in an earlier state. A nice example of a token that is somewhat on the scarcer side. Faulkner lists it as an R4 (out of 10) in the Imperial Designs book mentioned above, which is a must-read for any lover of colonial tokens!
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United States
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I should clarify that Charlton's PE-10-X numbering scheme is essentially equivalent (with a couple of variations) to that of Lees' original work. A further note on distinguishing the varieties: For the "Double H" group (ie. varieties with a second incuse H in the rightmost waves of the obverse; Lees 34-46) the presence of this line from the lowest foresail to the yard of spritsail indicates the obverse used for varieties 39-46 (34-38 do not have this line).  The fact that the yard of the spritsail projects beyond the sail to the right further narrows the obverse die to varieties 43-46. As you can see, some of the differences between the Ships Colonies Commerce varieties are minute and need a little getting used to. The Charlton Catalogue covers the series quite nicely for those that don't want to get too deep into the weeds.
Edited by blargish 06/14/2021 6:00 pm
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Edited by Dorado 06/19/2021 9:51 pm
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Quote: @gebs, stuur me een berichtje , wellicht kunnen we wat regelen om eens af te spreken. Altijd leuk! I can't send messages yet because I'm a "new" member. Maybey you can send me one
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