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Japan
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like a cleaned mid-AU.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Maybe just the photos but looks smaller to me. And it does have that Made in China color to it
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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If I had to make a call either way, I would lean towards it being counterfeit. Let's see what our Morgan experts say
Edited by JimmyD 07/03/2021 11:46 am
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Valued Member
 Japan
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Yeah I thought it was counterfeit at first, but it passes the size/weight/ring test so I figured it was altered in some way to give it that charcoal look.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks genuine to me. It was cleaned and artificially toned so it gets that "I was made in China look".
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Valued Member
 Japan
294 Posts |
It looks like whoever did it was trying to mimic a "sandblasted antique" finish found on 1921 Peace dollar specimens, but I think it looks pretty cool! They get an A for effort!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Question for Stephan-P, are the two coins pictured the same size (width)? Your photos may be introducing the 'illusion' that one coin is smaller than the other.
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Valued Member
 Japan
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ijn1944 Yeah, fits snug as a bug in the same case. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
The denticles are off on the coin. The reverse has the 21 features of larger stars, flat breast, straight arrow and looks like a 21 except for the denticles. On the obverse the face features look off for a 21. Can you get a close up of the date and the denticles in the same photo?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It does look a bit off, but can't give any specific diagnostic that would point to counterfeit. Definitely altered surfaces on a common date. As long as it's silver, it would pretty much carry the same small premium whether it's genuine or a decent counterfeit, IMO
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Looks like someones grandmother owned it and cleaned it with the silver flatware..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well, it looks like a fake to me, 99% sure it is. Is it even silver, has a look of pewter or pot metal. I'd get rid of it, it looks evil.
Edited by jimbucks 07/03/2021 5:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks real to me. Hard to imitate that reeded edge mark driven into the cheek. It looks like it was chemically blackened/tarnished, maybe with a reduced sulfur compound. Then the high points and the fields were burnished. It creates the dramatic look of a counterfeit.
It's worth melt.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What is the thickness? Can you post a photo of the rim/reeding? It's certainly a low value piece either way.
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Thq - that's exactly what I needed to throw this sucker back into the wild! (for melt value of course) I go through a lot of coins with the occasional counterfeit, and knew this one was real but it's good for me to know how it came to be, or if anyone had seen something similar.
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