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1950 Franklin Half Dollar Proof Before And After

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I recently had this coin slabbed by PCGS so I can put it up for sale. I just wanted to show the before and after pics of the coin. When I first got the coin it had severe haze and discoloration. I gave it a bath in distilled water then acetone. While that did slightly improve it and removed the PVC contamination, it didn't do anything for the yellow haze. I gave it a quick dip which removed the blue haze but only barely lightened the yellow. Had it receive an electrolysis bath and it popped out good as new
A little bit of effort but I'd say the eye appeal gained was worth it.

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 Posted 07/14/2021  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikem007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive difference. What grade did they give it?
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Really impressive.
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They graded it PR65. I probably should have put that in the original post. IMO this coin should pass at CAC when it is sent. It has a 0% chance at gold, but it's still quite nice with choice surfaces and light contrast
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It really is nice
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GrapeCollects, could you point me to a reference for using electrolysis for something like this? I'm very familiar with the process in general (I have used electrolysis for years for cleaning heavily corroded metal parts and tools), but never saw it used in this manner. Thanks!
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Oh, and by the way, very impressive results!
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Thanks, and sure! Here's a good video on the subject! Generally, I don't do it myself, I have a friend who works at another shop in Maryland who is excellent with coin conservation and has done some incredible work for me.
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Very well done...excellent results...

Guess you should add "PSURG of numismatic" to the end of your user name...
On the down side now I'll need more counter space, that should make my girl real happy...
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Who said "Don't clean coins"?

This is a worthy exception.

So long as you are prepared to take a risk, and know what you are doing.

Ask museums who display ancient coins. They know what they are doing, and what risks are involved.
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Nice impaired proof.
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Doesn't electrolysis remove a layer of metal? If so, how did PCGS not notice that?
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Cool outcome. When you put the coin up for sale, will you disclose what's been done with the piece? Perhaps 'conserved'? Thanks.
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n the down side now I'll need more counter space, that should make my girl real happy...


You should see my desk!


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This is a worthy exception. So long as you are prepared to take a risk, and know what you are doing.


Yup. In this case I believed that the benefit greatly outweighed the risk, and in this case it did. That's why I took measures carefully and step by step.


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Nice impaired proof.

I wouldn't consider it impaired as only containments on the surface was removed, not the surface itself. Given the fragile surfaces of proofs, if the surfaces themselves were messed with, it'd be very apparent.
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Doesn't electrolysis remove a layer of metal? If so, how did PCGS not notice that?


When done improperly, yes it does, when done properly no. Electrolysis has been a method of conservation used for a long time, and NCS and PCGS still use it today for conservation. It's great for removing crust and stubborn haze, but only in certain cases. In this case, I sent the coin to him and asked if he though it'd be safe or effective to try it on this particular coin. He's had decades of experience focused in conservation, and so if he felt that it'd be a good choice I left it to him. The coin post treatment is still fully proofy with zero disruptions in the luster. You would be completely unable to tell this coin from a "fully original" example. Personally though, I much prefer the after to the before, and as this is a coin I purchased for retail, I took the course of action I deemed the best to make the coin the most marketable.


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Cool outcome. When you put the coin up for sale, will you disclose what's been done with the piece? Perhaps 'conserved'? Thanks


No reason to do so. NGC and PCGS don't put conserved on their slabs when they do, and neither have I. If asked I'd tell the truth and say yes, but when a coin is properly conserved the coin should receive no hairlines or damage and therefor no reduction in grade or comment. Obviously, if a forum member is interested in the coin they would likely be aware since this thread exists, but I think in most cases people would rather have the conserved coin to the unconserved.
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Good job! I really think that people get all up in arms when a coin is improved. This coin looks great (well for a Ben, all Ben's are ugly). I would believe that 50% or more of all 100 year old bright as new coins were "treated"
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Job well done, Grape.
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